Important Announcement : The next release of JTAlert requires the .NET 5 desktop runtime
Fred Roberts
What new features will the next release include? Sorry....this is the first news I've seen on any new releases. And 2.16.17 is very stable, and a pleasure to use. Fred WB4QOC Sent from my phone.....Fred
On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 9:48 PM Fred Roberts <fred5352@...> wrote:
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HamApps Support (VK3AMA)
On 7/04/2021 11:49 am, Fred Roberts
wrote:
What new features will the next release include? Sorry....this is the first news I've seen on any new releases. And 2.16.17 is very stable, and a pleasure to use. The release notes for the new build... 2.50.0 de Laurie VK3AMA
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Joe - W9RF
Fred, Don't mean to hijack your post but I have not received an email about any changes. I certainly hope these new changes do not require Windows 10? AND why did I not receive an email about the changes? Laurie VK3AMA was the original email posted here on HamApps.groups.io? W9RF - Joe
On Tuesday, April 6, 2021, 8:50:18 PM CDT, Fred Roberts <fred5352@...> wrote:
What new features will the next release include? Sorry....this is the first news I've seen on any new releases. And 2.16.17 is very stable, and a pleasure to use. Fred WB4QOC Sent from my phone.....Fred On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 9:48 PM Fred Roberts <fred5352@...> wrote:
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HamApps Support (VK3AMA)
On 7/04/2021 1:43 pm, Joe - W9RF via
groups.io wrote:
I never email people about future changes to JTAlert, apart from the Test team. Sometimes I will drop hints, in this group, about upcoming new features, changes or fixes. I don't normally publish the release notes for a new release ahead of time. Today's announcement of the NET5 requirement and publishing of the release notes was done due to the large amount of changes and to give people a chance to install the NET5 runtime ahead of time. If you're still using Win 7 (why?) and don't have Extended Security Updates installed then you're likely out of luck and will have to stay with JTAlert 2.16.17. Info on getting Extended Security Updates for Win7 can be found here... https://docs.microsoft.com/troubleshoot/windows-client/windows-7-eos-faq/windows-7-extended-security-updates-faq. The list of .NET 5 supported Operating Systems can be found here... https://github.com/dotnet/core/blob/main/release-notes/5.0/5.0-supported-os.md The NET 5 requirement for JTAlert 2.50.0 and all future versions is a done deal, there is no going back. There is a lot of new code that is dependent on NET 5 functionality. de Laurie VK3AMA
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John Petrocelli
Hello,
If I understand, I shall need to install the "ESU" before I install the "Net 5" on my windows machine. I still run Windows 7 and have not yet planned to update to Windows 10 Additional input and comments are welcome Thanks in advance John John R. Petrocelli - WA2HIP ¶¶¶¶¶¶¶¶¶¶ Primary Home Page: http://wa2hip.com On 2021-04-07 05:26, HamApps Support
(VK3AMA) wrote:
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HamApps Support (VK3AMA)
On 7/04/2021 5:14 pm, John Petrocelli
via groups.io wrote:
If I understand, I shall need to install the "ESU" before I install the "Net 5" on my windows machine. That's how I read it. If you're on Win7 SP1 you need the ESU according to this... https://github.com/dotnet/core/blob/main/release-notes/5.0/5.0-supported-os.md de Laurie VK3AMA
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John Petrocelli
Thanks for the reply.
I shall 1) look into setting up ESU on the Win 7 machine 2) consider doing an upgrade to Win 10 in the near future Initially I saw many people had issues with Win 10 changing things around during updates. I am running Win 7 on a Dell 990 which has a quad-core CPU and an SSD To accomplish #2 above, I an thinking of cloning the Win 7 system drive (SSD) to another SSD and then trying the upgrade on that clone. BTW, I use Macrium Reflect Free (home use) to accomplish creating the image and then restoring the image to a "new" SSD Regards, John John R. Petrocelli - WA2HIP ¶¶¶¶¶¶¶¶¶¶ Primary Home Page: http://wa2hip.com On 2021-04-07 07:30, HamApps Support
(VK3AMA) wrote:
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Willi Passmann
...according to the link, "Windows 7
SP1 is supported with Extended Security Updates installed".
These Updates are chargeable. After having read two looong pages dealing with this matter, I still don't know what the fee would be or how the procedure works. I will try to update JTAlert, but in case of doubt I'll keep my (running) W7Pro system... vy 73, Willi, DJ6JZ Am 07.04.2021 um 09:30 schrieb HamApps Support (VK3AMA):
That's how I read it.
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On 4/7/2021 4:26 AM, John Petrocelli
via groups.io wrote:
Thanks for the reply. John - Also running a Dell 990 (i5 2400) quad-core w/16G RAM. Runs Win 10 with no problem. Even supports two monitors without a separate video card. Been running JTAlert and WSJT-X on it for months with no trouble. As a caveat, though, keep these two facts in mind: 1. Win 10 is near end-of-support (May 2021) for versions 1909 and lower. 2. My 990 would not accept the upgrade to take it above vers 1909, therefore leaving it about to stop receiving updates. I've been running Win 10 on several PCs since they released the free upgrade years ago. Other than the problem with the version upgrade I've not had a single crash or BSD happen. The "End-of Support" issue means the OS will no longer receive critical security or Windows apps updates. The OS will still work and Defender will still receive antivirus data. In general, Win 10 has been MUCH more stable than Win 7 or 8. The final decision, of course, is yours. 73 Dave - K1DJE
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The Microsoft link for a free upgrade to Windows 10 was still working within the past two years. It may still be available. Do a search for Free Windows 10 Upgrade and take a look to see if it is still active. I was able to upgrade my wife's Windows 7 machine with no problem. Be sure to check a couple of posts as I saw some possible issues with existing software.
73 Walt - W6SA
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Jim Cooper
On 7 Apr 2021 at 8:26, John Petrocelli via groups.io wrote:
> Initially I saw many people had issues with Win 10 changing things
> around during updates.
fwiw, a couple of months ago I was able to still
use the free upgrade from 7 to 10 and it went
amazingly smoothly. And has been running on 10
just fine ever since.
I DID run a full backup to a spare hard drive
'just in case' but did not need it. (Believe me,
I went into the project with extreme apprehension!)
I used the instructions at
Hope that helps.
Jim W2JC
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Dave Cole
I have been running W10 all along, and just went to 20H2, and am having ZERO issues, with jtalert, and wsjt-x, no issues of any kind.
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73, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) https://www.nk7z.net ARRL Volunteer Examiner ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
On 4/7/21 8:53 AM, Jim Cooper wrote:
On 7 Apr 2021 at 8:26, John Petrocelli via groups.io wrote:Initially I saw many people had issues with Win 10 changing thingsfwiw, a couple of months ago I was able to still
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John Petrocelli
Hello Dave,
Thanks for your input and observations. Since I recently upgraded my 4 desktops to Optiplex 990 MT I7, I still have an Optiplex 755. 1 is running Windows 10 The others run Win 7 and on of those 3 is my "radio" computer. I may try installing Windows 10 on the older Optiplex and then seeing what problems surface with WSJT-X and JTAlert. Regards, John John R. Petrocelli - WA2HIP ¶¶¶¶¶¶¶¶¶¶ Primary Home Page: http://wa2hip.com On 2021-04-07 11:29, Dave Corio via
groups.io wrote:
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