I must be missing something here, but how can a JTalert
alert be generated by a station while they are transmitting?

I must be missing something here, but how can a JTalert
alert be generated by a station while they are transmitting?
Nothing is being received while you are transmitting,
so what is going to trigger an audible alert?
The most common complaint along this line is when
WINDOWS alerts are generated using the same audio
device as the WSJT tx is using ... those definitely can
get broadcast at the same time as the digital signal.
On 1 Jan 2022 at 13:06, Michael Black via groups.io wrote:

Thought there was a check for the same sound card as the rig at one
time.  With all the people I've helped many only have the one
sound device for their rig....but I haven't seen anybody that had
alert sounds turned on in that case.
Seems JTAlert could auto-check to see if it's the same sound card
and disable sounds with a warning if it matches.
Such alerts would interfere with decodes too and generate noise on
the band.
Mike W9MDB


On Saturday, January 1, 2022, 06:51:02 AM CST, Jose - N4BAA via
groups.io <jose-castillo@...> wrote:

Hello and HNY everyone,
There should be a setting that when a station invokes any type of
TXing to another station, that there be automated 'muting' of the JT
Alerts (New Grid, New DXCC, New "whatever")... It is terrible to
hear all these alerts on the air. Some ops have every audible alert
selected and it can last up to 10 plus seconds of hearing it.
Does this exist already or am I missing the option somewhere?
HNYJoseN4BAA

Thought there was a check for the same sound card as the rig at one time.  

With all the people I've helped many only have the one sound device for their rig....but I haven't seen anybody that had alert sounds turned on in that case.

Seems JTAlert could auto-check to see if it's the same sound card and disable sounds with a warning if it matches.  

Such alerts would interfere with decodes too and generate noise on the band.

Mike W9MDB

JTAlert does check for a sound device match with JTAlert and WSJTX/JTDX.
This check has been present for a number of years. Just yesterday I was looking at the code as I was doing a cleanup of the messages customization as I removed the old HB9HQX and JT65-HF strings.

Works for me.


de Laurie VK3AMA

I suppose Laurie could read the WSJTX/JTDX configuration and "hide" or lock out that sound card but there
must be some limits to the "nanny act."

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV

JTAlert already checks for a sound device match and prevents all audio from JTAlert.
This does not address the Lids who still have Windows sounds enabled in a single sound device PC environment.   

   

I don't know if locking

JTAlert already checks for a sound device match and prevents all audio
from JTAlert.

This does not address the Lids who still have Windows sounds enabled in a single sound device PC environment.

On 2/01/2022 1:56 am, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

I suppose Laurie could read the WSJTX/JTDX configuration and "hide" or lock out that sound card but there
must be some limits to the "nanny act."

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV

JTAlert already checks for a sound device match and prevents all audio from JTAlert.
This does not address the Lids who still have Windows sounds enabled in a single sound device PC environment.
I don't know if lockingouta sound device is possible, but it is not something I would do even if possible. Deliberately interfering with other applications sound output or the Windows sound system, ie malware type behavior, is not something I wouldeverconsider.
de Laurie VK3AMA

That sound card check does not seem to work with JTDX.

Is it looking in the wrong directory for the ini file maybe?

Mike W9MDB

The JTDX soundboard check works for me.


Since you and Joe have reported this is not working I'll take a dive into the code and see what I find. That will happen tomorrow my time. Keep an eye on the Beta group for a new build.

de Laurie VK3AMA

JT-Alert is not preventing alert sounds from using the
same sound card as the WSJTX/JTDX *transmit* endpoint.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV

On 2/01/2022 12:06 am, Michael Black via groups.io wrote:

Thought there was a check for the same sound card as the rig at one time.  

With all the people I've helped many only have the one sound device for their rig....but I haven't seen anybody that had alert sounds turned on in that case.

Seems JTAlert could auto-check to see if it's the same sound card and disable sounds with a warning if it matches.  

Such alerts would interfere with decodes too and generate noise on the band.

Mike W9MDB

JTAlert does check for a sound device match with JTAlert and WSJTX/JTDX.
This check has been present for a number of years. Just yesterday I was looking at the code as I was doing a cleanup of the messages customization as I removed the old HB9HQX and JT65-HF strings.

Works for me.


de Laurie VK3AMA

Laurie,

I checked, using WSJT-X 2.5.3 and JTAlert 2.50.9 beta 0005. I did not get that message.

73,

Jim N6VH

You can put all the safeguards in the software you want, but I'm sorry, sometimes you just can't fix stupid.

These sounds are bad enough, but IMO the worst offenders are those who have their station mic live, where you hear 2-meter QSO's in the background, police scanners, eyeball QSO's, and on more than one occasion, a family fight going on.  You can put all the safeguards in the software you want, but I'm sorry, sometimes you just can't fix stupid.
73
David
WA0RVK