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locked Proper Initial Log Setup
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Patrick Hung
I started using JT-Alert a few months ago, and unfortunately didn't try to find a tutorial or learn more about it before making the plunge. Having finally had some time to read up on its intricacies, I believe that there is something amiss with my logging, and here are the tell-tales:
Searching for an adif file in the JT-Alert folder, I found one, at only 1 kb. There is a b4 log, at a few hundred kb's. I wonder if I have to reinstall, and perhaps lose my existing logs on JT-Alert (do I even have one?). I've been uploading my WSJT-X adif file to LOTW weekly, manually. A YouTube video shows HRD as being able to do this automatically, as JT-Alert logs each QSO... Is HRD a better way to get QSOs onto LOTW, for my WAS goal? Thanks in advance for helping a JT-Alert noobie. Patrick W2TAR
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Michael Black
You'll be a lot better off if you use a real logger. I can recommend Log4OM. It's free and does what you need for LOTW. There is a learning curve of course. What you do NOT want to do is download logs from LOTW or anywhere else and import them...they lack a lot of information. If your wsjtx adi file is the best one you have right now start with that and import that. A few mouse clicks will upload the QSOs to LOTW from Log4OM. If you're working WAS I can also recommend my LOTWQSL program that you'll find on my qrz.com page. It will show you maps/grids and is easy to update to see what QSLs you've received (both for WAS and DXCC awards). Mike W9MDB
On Thursday, November 12, 2020, 11:20:51 PM CST, Patrick Hung <pathung@...> wrote:
I started using JT-Alert a few months ago, and unfortunately didn't try to find a tutorial or learn more about it before making the plunge. Having finally had some time to read up on its intricacies, I believe that there is something amiss with my logging, and here are the tell-tales:
Searching for an adif file in the JT-Alert folder, I found one, at only 1 kb. There is a b4 log, at a few hundred kb's. I wonder if I have to reinstall, and perhaps lose my existing logs on JT-Alert (do I even have one?). I've been uploading my WSJT-X adif file to LOTW weekly, manually. A YouTube video shows HRD as being able to do this automatically, as JT-Alert logs each QSO... Is HRD a better way to get QSOs onto LOTW, for my WAS goal? Thanks in advance for helping a JT-Alert noobie. Patrick W2TAR
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Jim Cooper
On 12 Nov 2020 at 21:20, Patrick Hung wrote:
> I started using JT-Alert a few months ago, and unfortunately didn't
> try to find a tutorial or learn more about it before making the
> plunge. Having finally had some time to read up on its intricacies,
> I believe that there is something amiss with my logging, and here
> are the tell-tales:
>
> * When I tried to rebuild the database, it alerted that a log was
> not enabled. I didn't know what to do, so found a way to point it
> straight to my wsjtx.log adif file.
> * As I tinkered with the settings, and for a short while, a small
> popup would appear notifying me of a successful QSO being logged -
> this stopped appearing after I pointed to the wsjt-x adif file.
> * My Wanted States don't seem to work - states I've worked keep
> popping up in an orange background/black font color combo in the
> JT-Alert main window (when new callsign, I think). I have the
> following turned on for alerts: DXCC, Continent, CQ Zone, States;
> I'm trying to work all states.
>
> Searching for an adif file in the JT-Alert folder, I found one, at
> only 1 kb. There is a b4 log, at a few hundred kb's.
>
> I wonder if I have to reinstall, and perhaps lose my existing logs
> on JT-Alert (do I even have one?).
>
> I've been uploading my WSJT-X adif file to LOTW weekly, manually. A
> YouTube video shows HRD as being able to do this automatically, as
> JT-Alert logs each QSO... Is HRD a better way to get QSOs onto LOTW,
> for my WAS goal?
>
> Thanks in advance for helping a JT-Alert noobie.
>
> Patrick
> W2TAR
My suggestion is to go to the Settings page,
select the Logging dropdown, then select the
"Standard ADIF File"
This will be filled in by JTalert and you can use it to update
your various alerts, etc. I have found this to be much
cleaner and easier than trying to 'synch' with some external
logbooks. DON'T use the adif file associated with
WSJT-X, or you will get things really messed up !!
As far as getting things to LotW, there are many routes;
MY favorite is to use the QRZ.com Logbook (which I use
for my non-digital logging anyway).
This will cause JTalert to upload each QSO to QRZ as it is
logged by WSJT-X ... you will need the "XML" subscription
at QRZ, but that is well worth it for all the features it
provides. When you get that subscription, you will get an
"API Key" code which you enter as shown on the graphic
above.
Why do I prefer this solution? Because it gives me a
'backup' log on QRZ.com, it gives me a place to log
non-digital QSOs, QRZ Logbook keeps ALL the details of
the QSO (which LotW does not), and the upload from QRZ
to LotW is done with 3 mouse clicks! (once it is set up
between QRZ Logbook and LotW).
This arrangement satisfies my needs because I don't try to
make JTalert keep track of confirmations of all the
categories; LotW does that for me as far as awards, etc.
So the info in the JTalert "Standard ADIF File" keeps
track of worked entities including band and mode, and
makes the alerting "easy peasy" ...
Hope that helps.
Jim W2JC
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I Patrick,
I think you need a real logging program. I recommend ACLog by
N3FJP. It does cost a nominal amount, but it has great support, is easy to
use, and doe everything you might ever need. http://www.n3fjp.com/index.html
I’m just a happy user. 73 -- Larry
-- W1DYJ
I
started using JT-Alert a few months ago, and unfortunately didn't try to find a
tutorial or learn more about it before making the plunge. Having finally had
some time to read up on its intricacies, I believe that there is something amiss
with my logging, and here are the tell-tales:
Searching for an adif file in the JT-Alert folder, I found one, at only 1 kb. There is a b4 log, at a few hundred kb's. I wonder if I have to reinstall, and perhaps lose my existing logs on JT-Alert (do I even have one?). I've been uploading my WSJT-X adif file to LOTW weekly, manually. A YouTube video shows HRD as being able to do this automatically, as JT-Alert logs each QSO... Is HRD a better way to get QSOs onto LOTW, for my WAS goal? Thanks in advance for helping a JT-Alert noobie. Patrick W2TAR
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Patrick Hung
Michael, Jim, Larry,
Thank you all for your responses, complete with three different logging programs that I will be exploring; one thing for sure is that I need a logging program, and it's good to have that confirmed. I had used N1MM+ in the past, but in SSB contesting only, which has been rare as I prefer digital, for now. Regardless of which logger I go with, selecting the appropriate logger settings in JT-Alert will simply bring over/export my current WSJT-X log (adif) to the new logger, I hope? Thanks again for your help. -- Patrick - W2TAR
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Michael Black
Yes...all loggers can import adif files.
On Friday, November 13, 2020, 09:31:17 AM CST, Patrick Hung <pathung@...> wrote:
Michael, Jim, Larry, Thank you all for your responses, complete with three different logging programs that I will be exploring; one thing for sure is that I need a logging program, and it's good to have that confirmed. I had used N1MM+ in the past, but in SSB contesting only, which has been rare as I prefer digital, for now. Regardless of which logger I go with, selecting the appropriate logger settings in JT-Alert will simply bring over/export my current WSJT-X log (adif) to the new logger, I hope? Thanks again for your help. -- Patrick - W2TAR
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Hi Patrick,
You will probably have to import your WSJT-X ADIF into your chosen logger
to start, and then point JTAlert to that logger.
73 -- Larry -- W1DYJ
From: Patrick Hung
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 10:31
Subject: Re: [HamApps] Proper Initial Log Setup Michael,
Jim, Larry, Thank you all for your responses, complete with three different logging programs that I will be exploring; one thing for sure is that I need a logging program, and it's good to have that confirmed. I had used N1MM+ in the past, but in SSB contesting only, which has been rare as I prefer digital, for now. Regardless of which logger I go with, selecting the appropriate logger settings in JT-Alert will simply bring over/export my current WSJT-X log (adif) to the new logger, I hope? Thanks again for your help. -- Patrick - W2TAR
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Patrick Hung
Well noted, Michael and Larry.
This will be a fun (hair-pulling) project for this weekend. -- Patrick - W2TAR
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geoff wiggins
Patrick. May I recommend Log4om2. Brilliant program and I have used it successfully for some time now. Auto logging with it is very easy. Enjoy. 73 Geoff. G4XMJ
On 13/11/2020 16:17, Larry Banks via
groups.io wrote:
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Patrick Hung
Thanks, Geoff, I'll surely take a close look at it.
-- Patrick - W2TAR
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neil_zampella
Don't know if anyone recommended DXKeeper, part of the DXLabs suite of programs. Its free, and has excellent integration with JT-Alert. You don't need to install the entire set of programs, just what you need at first. http://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxlabwiki/InstallingDXLabApplications
Neil, KN3ILZ
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Patrick Hung
Thanks, Neil. I've downloaded DXKeeper, just having found a reason yet to install it; perhaps this is it.
-- Patrick - W2TAR
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Bill Pence
I'll chime in with another endorsement for dx keeper and the dxlab suite.
Just WOW! And the support!
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