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locked Re: JTAlert no longer works

HamApps Support (VK3AMA)
 

On 8/07/2020 5:17 pm, f8nhf wrote:
when I run the JTALert
it launches but nothing decodes and a few minutes later I get error messages, see pictures.

I made a new complete installation of JTAlert and JTDX the .ini are new
PC I5 3.3Ghz mem 16GB DD 1Tera antivirus DEFENDER from WIN10
the PC is only used for the FT8
software in the PC
JTDX , JTALert , HRD de luxe
thank you for your help
73's Denis F8NHF

The error message shown by JTAlert indicates it never received a UDP message from JTDX.

Likely causes are you have another application running that has taken exclusive control of the 2237 UDP port. Try changing it to 2238 and restart both JTAlert and JTDX.

Another common problem is that JTDX is running with elevated privileges, that is set to run as administrator. There is never a need to run JTDX elevated. Check the properties of the jtdx.exe file and the shortcut used to start JTDX and ensure you don't have the "Run as Administrator" property set.

de Laurie VK3AMA


locked Re: Question on Decodes 2.16.8

HamApps Support (VK3AMA)
 

On 10/07/2020 1:47 pm, epckjv@... wrote:
I upgraded my JTDX  to 2.1.0 rc 151 and JTAlert to 2.16.8 .Before the upgrade my Decode is working but when it updated to Decode 2.16.8 it does not work anymore.Can u give me some hint on what to do or most probably on my settings etc.

De DV3CEP 73 Mabuhay from Philippines

What version of JTAlert did you upgrade from? If it was several versions old, you may have an incompatible decodes database. The schema shown on the Decodes Help->About window should be 0.3.1

If you have an old database you will need to delete the current file. Use Windows File Explorer and navigate to the %localappdata%\HamApps\JTAlert\
DV3CEP\Decode\ directory and delete all files starting with "decodes".

If the database schema is correct, you may have a corrupt file, in which delete the database file as instructed above.

de Laurie VK3AMA


locked Question on Decodes 2.16.8

Emerson Cruz
 

I upgraded my JTDX  to 2.1.0 rc 151 and JTAlert to 2.16.8 .Before the upgrade my Decode is working but when it updated to Decode 2.16.8 it does not work anymore.Can u give me some hint on what to do or most probably on my settings etc.

De DV3CEP 73 Mabuhay from Philippines


locked Re: version 2.16.8 sound issue.

chas cartmel
 

That was it Laurie, Thanks


73 Charlie
be safe

G4EST

www.g4est.me.uk

 

 

 

From: Support@HamApps.groups.io [mailto:Support@HamApps.groups.io] On Behalf Of HamApps Support (VK3AMA)
Sent: 09 July 2020 21:48
To: Support@HamApps.groups.io
Subject: Re: [HamApps] version 2.16.8 sound issue.

 

On 10/07/2020 2:55 am, chas cartmel wrote:

Probably something I have missed, but not getting any audio alerts from latest version.
Test sound card works OK, most alerts enabled, and ‘header says ‘Sound ON’. JTAlert appears in the mixer as full volume so not muted (seemingly) WSJT-X pounding away as normal and data being transferred to the app as usual.

Looked for other reports on ‘interweb’ or in previous posts but drew a blank.

Windows 10, 2004 AMD Ryzen 2700X, 32Gb RAM  4Tb SSDs

Probably due to lockdown fever, but any advice welcomed


73 Charlie

G4EST


If the Sound Test works than Alert sounds will work, they both use the same code. Likely your Alerts don't have sound file paths set. Check your Wanted Alerts in the Settings.

de Laurie VK3AMA


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locked Re: version 2.16.8 sound issue.

HamApps Support (VK3AMA)
 

On 10/07/2020 2:55 am, chas cartmel wrote:

Probably something I have missed, but not getting any audio alerts from latest version.
Test sound card works OK, most alerts enabled, and ‘header says ‘Sound ON’. JTAlert appears in the mixer as full volume so not muted (seemingly) WSJT-X pounding away as normal and data being transferred to the app as usual.

Looked for other reports on ‘interweb’ or in previous posts but drew a blank.

Windows 10, 2004 AMD Ryzen 2700X, 32Gb RAM  4Tb SSDs

Probably due to lockdown fever, but any advice welcomed


73 Charlie

G4EST


If the Sound Test works than Alert sounds will work, they both use the same code. Likely your Alerts don't have sound file paths set. Check your Wanted Alerts in the Settings.

de Laurie VK3AMA


locked version 2.16.8 sound issue.

chas cartmel
 

Laurie

 

Probably something I have missed, but not getting any audio alerts from latest version.
Test sound card works OK, most alerts enabled, and ‘header says ‘Sound ON’. JTAlert appears in the mixer as full volume so not muted (seemingly) WSJT-X pounding away as normal and data being transferred to the app as usual.

Looked for other reports on ‘interweb’ or in previous posts but drew a blank.

Windows 10, 2004 AMD Ryzen 2700X, 32Gb RAM  4Tb SSDs

Probably due to lockdown fever, but any advice welcomed


73 Charlie

G4EST

www.g4est.me.uk

 


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locked Re: JTAlert no longer works

Jacek SQ9ETV
 

JTDX reporting settings section, set UDP server correctly


locked JTAlert no longer works

f8nhf
 

Hello all

when I run the JTALert
it launches but nothing decodes and a few minutes later I get error messages, see pictures.

I made a new complete installation of JTAlert and JTDX the .ini are new
PC I5 3.3Ghz mem 16GB DD 1Tera antivirus DEFENDER from WIN10
the PC is only used for the FT8
software in the PC
JTDX , JTALert , HRD de luxe
thank you for your help
73's Denis F8NHF


locked Re: Spam from K2G

Thomas Mize KJ4GK
 

WB5JJJ, Hey bud, No what happened with that was an operator had asked me how to set his WSJT-X up for DXP Mode and I was attempting to work explain this but when another message comes in the call sign changed at the top cause I had paused a second to go look at the exact menu names for him. When I cam back you had messaged me(Probably a response or telling me thank for the QSO) and I didn't notice it and I sent it to you. That is all that was. I have had that happen a good bit at times.  Sorry though for the confusion George. 

KJ4GK


locked Re: Spam from K2G

Thomas Mize KJ4GK
 

Thanks neil_zampelia....From what I have understood, from many people complaining about this they have blocked the multi-threading from normal frequencies with the latest version but I could be wrong about that I haven't upgraded my version.  I actually started off trying DXPedtion Mode with WSJT-X first and was have a lot of people attempting to contact me in normal operating mode.  I was messaging them via JT Alert walking them through it but I think he confusing aspect to that is DXPedtion Mode was designed mainly for DXPedtions. So the operator chasing the DX probably has already familiarized them self with the mode.  With this being a Special Event instead of a contest a large number wasn't familiar with it.  That is then when I had the idea to try out MSHV and it appeared to allow people in DXPedtion mode via WSJT-X to work me just fine since I was on the edge of the water fall to the left around 300 and the people working normal mode of course had no issues.

I think it is one of those things if used correctly can be ok but when used wrong especially on FT4 it could really take off a lot of bandwidth especially on a already crowded waterfall.  I have seen some of the DXPedtion guys running up to 5 streams on normal operating freq before and they were transmitting over people with out knowing it.


locked Re: Click on JTAlert and get PathFinder to see "Call sign" ?

KD7YZ Bob
 

On 7/6/2020 20:12, HamApps Support (VK3AMA) wrote:
On 7/07/2020 5:30 am, KD7YZ Bob wrote:

The most likely cause of a DDE connection failure is Windows preventing the connection due to a permissions level mismatch. Very likely you have all the DXLab suite of programs set to run as Administrator or DXLab Launcher is set to run elevated which will automatically cause all the programs it launches to be elevated. Windows will prevent any normal privileged program (JTAlert) from communicating via DDE with elevated programs.
Excellent Laurie.

Even the folders for both DXLabs and for HamApps were 'Admin' owned as well as everything underneath them.

I set each folder, and child folders/programs thereby, to 'Username/users ... under 'Properties'/ security/Advanced , Owner ..

Then I verified the exe's had been changed to the correct level.

Thank you. All back to normal now.

--
73
Bob KD7YZ
AMSAT LM #901


locked Re: Spam from K2G

neil_zampella
 

FWIW ... I won't work anyone using MSHV's multi-threading.  The reason?  Despite multiple requests from the developers, and others, the MSHV developer will not block the use of the multithreading from the standard frequencies.      The use of such on the standard frequencies tends to cause confusion to other operators since they believe its WSJT-X DXPedtion mode, then are really confused as they can't use it on the normal frequencies.    Also, such use on the normal frequencies tends to cause even more crowding on an already crowded band.    

You, at least, did try to stay off the normal frequencies, so you should have used the original DXPedition mode in WSJT-X. 

My 2 cents,

Neil, KN3ILZ


locked Re: Spam from K2G

Frank Kirschner
 

No matter how many times you test it, you can never be sure of all the things software might do. Not a problem.

73,
Frank
KF6E

On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 1:45 PM Thomas Mize KJ4GK <threemanpro@...> wrote:
Laurie VK3AMA, It was Me. KJ4GK I wote a full explanation to this post.  I just hope to God you forgive me brother.


locked Re: JTAlertV2.Manager will not start

John
 

Laurie,

Here's what I sent to Neil KN3ILZ:� "Naturally after I complained it seems to be working OK on both computers. It's like having toothache that goes away when you go to the dentist
�I'll wait until it fails before I fill out the Contact Support form"

John

On 7/6/2020 9:02 PM, HamApps Support (VK3AMA) wrote:
On 6/07/2020 7:06 am, John wrote:
If you find a solution please let me know. I'm having the same problem. Messages to and from Laurie haven't come up with a solution. I asked if there was a way to force it to start. Laurie said it's hard wired in the program.
After many attempts I occasionally get it started, then after using it I minimize it rather than closing it, that works great until a computer restart is needed.
73, John

John,

Please use the "Help" -> "Contact Support" menu, on the main JTAlert window, to send me your JTAlert files for analysis.

After sending your support request, please do the following...
  • Uninstall JTAlert using Windows Control Panel.
  • Using Windows File Explorer, navigate to the folder where you had JTAlert installed.
  • Delete any remaining files and folders in your old JTAlert install directory.
  • Install JTAlert.

After having done this cleanup and reinstall start JTAlert and leave running for 3 minutes thensend another support request.


Thanks

de Laurie VK3AMA


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locked Re: Spam from K2G

Thomas Mize KJ4GK
 

Laurie VK3AMA, It was Me. KJ4GK I wote a full explanation to this post.  I just hope to God you forgive me brother.


locked Re: Spam from K2G

Thomas Mize KJ4GK
 

Michael Black....It wasn't a they, It was just me bud. I just want to make sure it is very very very clear that I did this alone. I had good intentions so I could alert people to where I was at operating but it turned out to be a terrible Idea. I am sorry to have upset you or anyone else.


locked Re: Spam from K2G

Thomas Mize KJ4GK
 

He Michael Aust. I can't speak for others but I have been using MSHV for this contest. No external Robot Software.  When running Big Contest and Special Events like this Automation becomes a good friend :)  Especially when you have pile ups of 25 or more people.  There are macro external programs I have seen people using out there from watching videos on Youtube. It is crazy the idea people have.


locked Re: Spam from K2G

Thomas Mize KJ4GK
 

Actually that is a very very good idea. Thank you Michael.  What would be a good idea especially if you have been working a freq and are about to switch also.


locked Re: Spam from K2G

Thomas Mize KJ4GK
 

Hey bud, sorry if I caused you any problems. I only do 5 Streams outside. If it was someone doing 5 Streams on a reg frequency it sure wasn't me. I am no aware of any way to do 6 at one time but who knows what software there is out there.  You can work up to 5 Stations at one time doing F/H mode or Multi Stream mode. Again sorry if I caused you any trouble.


locked Re: Spam from K2G

Michael Black
 

Proper contrition being shown Thomas...

The way to do this might have been to send an FT8 message like this periodically on the main FT8 section.  Just makes the 13 char maximum.

QSY K2G 14076

Mike W9MDB


On Tuesday, July 7, 2020, 12:19:59 PM CDT, Thomas Mize KJ4GK <threemanpro@...> wrote:


I am the one responsible for the messages being sent the last few days using JT Alert and I take FULL RESPONSIBILITY.

Allow me to explain please...

First off, this is absolutely embarrassing. My Name is Thomas Mize - KJ4GK and this is my first year volunteering to operate as K2G along with many others ops from GA for the 13 Colonies Special Event.

I am one of those type of guys that always tries to think out side the box. In a way, it is a good thing in many situations, but with what happened with this IT WAS NOT :(

What gave this idea, was what a fellow Ham said. He stated, that he wasn't having a lot of luck on the allocated frequencies even with spotting them.  The word wasn't getting out well enough.  Just by hearing him say that.  Once I got off the phone I had the idea popped off in my thick skull, I was like, "If I could send messages out to operators that are already on the band operating FT8/4 and Invite them over to the frequencies it would be GREAT!"

Then my thought was..."BUT...a big BUT, I cannot allow messages to be sent to anyone twice. In my mind that was the key. If people received messages more then once, this would NOT BE A GOOD THING AT ALL!!!

So I attempted to work on the program and found out that I wouldn't be able to implement the code to make sure it doesn't send to the same operator twice(A little over my head) so I jumped on a Freelance Site and Hired a Programmer for $80 to help me with this. I also told him only messages to be sent to operators that were online as well. I explained how important it was that people can't be sent the same message twice. I needed a database to be implemented.

The next day he sent the source over and it appeared to be working GREAT. I was getting a lot of replies thanking me so much for inviting them.  I was so happy because It was working and it was bringing people to the freq. BUT. . .

Last night I received my first message alerting me that a person had received a message more then once, for me to quit.  It startled me. Then I received another message a few minutes later, so I stopped the program IMMEDIATELY! 

This morning I woke up to find Laurie's message he had sent about the messages, then saw this in the group.io and my heart DROPPED. You can say the emotions I had was of ANGER mixed with Embarrassment.

I contacted the programmer right away and requested my money back and I let him know HOW UPSET I WAS!!!!!!!!!! that it had caused a uproar AMONG fellow Ham operators and that many people were very upset and that messages were being sent to people more then once which is the MOST IMPORTANT reason I hired him in the first place.

I am deeply sorry about this to everyone.   I was just wanting to think out side the box and do something that would help spread the word of the Event and to invite operators over to work K2G.  I was hoping if it worked out great I could share it with the other States for next year.  I see that it did help MANY people. I have received well over 100+ messages thanking me BUT it came with the expense of upsetting people which just isn't right.  Honestly since this happened, it has got me to pondering and thinking a lot. Even if it never sent to someone twice, I still am not to sure if it was a good idea at all.  I just wasn't thinking.  I'm just a guy that want to help people, I've always been that way, I'm 37 Years old and have 2 precious kids and thank God they took after me. They are the same way. 

Again I take full responsibility for this Laurie.  It in no way should reflect on K2G or any other operators as a group. I had this idea single handed and no one else used this but me. I have deleted the source code and the program and will no longer EVER use this again.

I just hope Laurie you will find it in your heart to forgive me.  My intentions were positive I promise, and now My IP Address which is my home IP address has been blocked. In response to one of your messages I wasn't behind a VPN. I don't own one. I was just trying to help.  I have only slept no more then 4 Hours every day so far for this event. I felt so privileged to be able to participate and now I feel terrible! I am one of the biggest Fans of JT Alert and have been enjoying it everyday for a whole year now. Being a programmer my self(No where near as good as you) I have a special respect for you as a programmer because I can fathom how much work it takes to keep something like this going out of the good will of your heart).

I repeat one last time, This will never happen again, I have deleted all the files. It was a good idea at the time that turned out to be a terrible one.  I am so sorry for anyone that I angered. 

Sincerely,

Thomas Mize  KJ4GK

If you can forgive me Laurie I would love to be able to use Hamspots and Jt Alert still. It has been a big part of my life for the last year. If not I understand.  I am on a static IP over here and it doesn't change as far as I know. 73 Everyone.

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