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locked Decoding Irregularities

Craig
 

Using WSJT-X V2.2.2 and JTAlert v2.16.8  Half of the time WSJT-X RX Frequency decoding misses TX-3 / TX-4 / TX-5 sequences.  I have lost numerous QSO's not seeing the conclusion of the exchange sequence. No difference if I am observing another station exchanges, or my own.  Seems to be more frequent when Hold TX Freq is used, but guessing a bit here.  I think that the problem started when the WSJT-X decoding timing supposedly improved with v2.2.1

I have uninstalled and re-loaded WSJT-X and JTAlert,  Problem continues. 

Is anyone seeing this?


locked Re: Spam from K2G

wo4o RiC
 

You can ID the person who secured K2G for that particular date by looking online and performing a search at:

http://www.1x1callsigns.org/

73 de RiC wo4o
Grand Island FL


locked Re: Spam from K2G

Gerald Klotz
 

I got one while I was offline and it came through when I went back online. He was doing the 13 colonies contest and was also on the Warc bands. He had several stations going at a time. At one time I saw him calling 6 stations and he kept calling. Which kept causing my software to stop sending to the station I was calling.


Gerry Klotz

On Jul 6, 2020, at 11:16 PM, Rob Neff via groups.io <rob=idahoparanormal.com@groups.io> wrote:

Anyone else get spammed by K2G asking people to QSY to some freq and mode out of the blue? My wife did today. The PC and radio was on but no one was home, and she was still running JTALERT. We came home to find whomever it was had sent a generic message via JTALERT.

When asked about spam she was told “I have received hundreds of messages thanking me for letting them know and inviting them”.

So the question then becomes, did someone send hundreds of JTALERT messages one at a time or has someone figured out a way to spam a large number of people at the same time?

It’s one thing to have someone see you on PSKREPORTER and send you a message if you’re online and need the contact, but this was a bit more than that.

Rob KW2E



locked Re: Wanted Call needs to ignore Filters

Mike - AA1AR
 

On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 01:19 AM, HamApps Support (VK3AMA) wrote:
Excluding the Wanted Call Alert from obeying any of the Alert Filters set is on the TODO list, but I don't know when that will be implemented, sorry.

Just chiming in to say I think that would be a useful feature also.
73, Mike - W1MI


locked Re: Not logging some QSOs to DXKeeper. #DXLAB

g4wjs
 

On 07/07/2020 03:19, HamApps Support (VK3AMA) wrote:
On 7/07/2020 11:05 am, g4wjs wrote:
Maybe if a logging event takes an extended time, due to Internet actions on my very poor shack WiFi connection, the next QSO logged could cause JTAlert to start a new connection while DXKeeper was still finishing its end of the last connection.

Bill,

With the current code, it is not possible to initiate a second logging event when the first hasn't completed or timed-out.

The code is synchronous, with no async callbacks. Once JTAlert has entered the logging/confirmation code (a single method), everything blocks until that method is left. There are two possible exit paths from the logging method (success or failure) and both perform a
TCPCloseSocket operation.

de Laurie VK3AMA

Hi Laurie,

I understand that but just because you have called TCPCloseSocket doesn't mean that the DXKeeper TCP/IP server has finished and closed its end of the connection. Do you get a reply from DXKeeper to your logging request, if not then there's no way of knowing that DXKeeper has finished with the request.

This all depends on the implementation at the DXKeeper end, there are many options for implementing a socket server, you can only accept one request at a time and let new requests get buffered in the network, you can use one thread per request and handle them concurrently, you can use a thread pool and handle up to a certain number of requests concurrently, or you can use select() and handle requests in parallel as data arrives in a single thread. I believe VB6 that DXKeeper is implemented with uses the select() approach and fires a DataArrival event when traffic arrives, one has to be careful to handle that data understanding which accepted socket it arrives on, and that other requests may be in progress concurrently,


--
73
Bill
G4WJS.


locked Re: JTAlertV2.Manager will not start

neil_zampella
 

John,

accept the installer defaults ... it will put it in the correct location expected.

 

Neil, KN3ILZ


On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 11:23 PM, John wrote:

QSL, will do
What is the best place to install it? In it's own directory or in Program Files(x86)?

Thanks
John


locked Re: s in green dot

g4wjs
 

On 07/07/2020 02:10, richard clare wrote:
What does the s in the green dot/no dot signify? Richard wb6ewm
Hi Richard,

not really anything to do with JTAlert, WSJT-X has its own support forum on Groups.io (https://wsjtx.groups.io/g/main).

The dot being green indicates that WSJT-X has working CAT control of your rig, the 'S' indicates that you have selected one of the "Settings->Radio->Split Operating" options. So you are seeing that all is OK withCAT control of your rig.



--
73
Bill
G4WJS.


locked Re: Spam from K2G

Michael Aust
 

Laurie

Suspect K2G automated their WSJT FT8
as a Robot Station with a automated Macro script in the way
they responded to contacts in this event

Oh well !

73
MA

-----Original Message-----
From: HamApps Support (VK3AMA) <vk3ama.ham.apps@...>
To: Support@HamApps.groups.io
Sent: Mon, Jul 6, 2020 10:54 pm
Subject: Re: [HamApps] Spam from K2G

On 7/07/2020 2:35 pm, Michael Black via groups.io wrote:
Yes...they are spamming everybody.  I've received several of these.

Mike W9MDB

Does anyone know who the op is running K2G?

Unfortunately,  due to the log file size, I don't record the Text Message traffic hitting the Server. Only exceptions like timeouts & premature socket closed events are recorded. However, I can see the Text Message files stored on the Server that haven't been collected by the targeted Callsign and there are enough of them to draw some conclusions.
  • The Spamming occurred over a ~2 hour period. With no further messages received in the last 5 hours.

  • One message sent precisely every second indicating automation, not a manual-initiated messaging.
     
  • I was seeing multiple messages sent to the same Calling often 5 or 10 minutes apart.

  • Messages were sent either from JTAlert that was automated by a Macro type program or a script mimicking the JTAlert behavior.

  • A script would have required an initial sniffing of the. local network to determine who the messages are sent and the Handshaking involved.

  • Uncollected messages from that ~2hour period numbered 3000. Clearly this spamming numbered in the many thousands.
I have identified the originating IP address and blocked it on the Server firewall. That only keeps the honest people out. If the abuser is smart enough to automate this attack, they are smart enough to use a VPN or proxy server so they can change their public IP at will.

I suspect that the operator at K2G is monitoring this group. When I first started composing this email, they were on-line for Text Message receipt. Now that I have finished composing the email, they have gone off-line as I was about to send a nasty message.
de Laurie VK3AMA


locked Re: Spam from K2G

HamApps Support (VK3AMA)
 

On 7/07/2020 3:54 pm, HamApps Support (VK3AMA) via groups.io wrote:

I suspect that the operator at K2G is monitoring this group. When I first started composing this email, they were on-line for Text Message receipt. Now that I have finished composing the email, they have gone off-line as I was about to send a nasty message.

Disregard the above. Of course he went off-line, I had already blocked his IP at the Server so his status wasn't getting updated as he could no longer sign in to check for messages.

de Laurie VK3AMA


locked Re: Spam from K2G

HamApps Support (VK3AMA)
 

On 7/07/2020 2:35 pm, Michael Black via groups.io wrote:
Yes...they are spamming everybody.  I've received several of these.

Mike W9MDB

Does anyone know who the op is running K2G?

Unfortunately,  due to the log file size, I don't record the Text Message traffic hitting the Server. Only exceptions like timeouts & premature socket closed events are recorded. However, I can see the Text Message files stored on the Server that haven't been collected by the targeted Callsign and there are enough of them to draw some conclusions.
  • The Spamming occurred over a ~2 hour period. With no further messages received in the last 5 hours.

  • One message sent precisely every second indicating automation, not a manual-initiated messaging.
     
  • I was seeing multiple messages sent to the same Calling often 5 or 10 minutes apart.

  • Messages were sent either from JTAlert that was automated by a Macro type program or a script mimicking the JTAlert behavior.

  • A script would have required an initial sniffing of the. local network to determine who the messages are sent and the Handshaking involved.

  • Uncollected messages from that ~2hour period numbered 3000. Clearly this spamming numbered in the many thousands.

I have identified the originating IP address and blocked it on the Server firewall. That only keeps the honest people out. If the abuser is smart enough to automate this attack, they are smart enough to use a VPN or proxy server so they can change their public IP at will.


I suspect that the operator at K2G is monitoring this group. When I first started composing this email, they were on-line for Text Message receipt. Now that I have finished composing the email, they have gone off-line as I was about to send a nasty message.

de Laurie VK3AMA


locked Re: Spam from K2G

Michael Aust
 

Mike and Rob,

  From my experience, it would not be 
Too hard to do this with a Script File and 
or a Macro Builder to take to do this

   In Engineering, we had to do things 
when we had to get one program to talk
to another program

   Guess the Spammer knows a few things
that most hams do not know about these
days

73
Mike
WB6DJI 

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On Monday, July 6, 2020, Michael Black via groups.io <mdblack98@...> wrote:

Yes...they are spamming everybody.  I've received several of these.



Mike W9MDB




On Monday, July 6, 2020, 11:16:24 PM CDT, Rob Neff via groups.io <rob@...> wrote:


Anyone else get spammed by K2G asking people to QSY to some freq and mode out of the blue? My wife did today. The PC and radio was on but no one was home, and she was still running JTALERT. We came home to find whomever it was had sent a generic message via JTALERT.

When asked about spam she was told “I have received hundreds of messages thanking me for letting them know and inviting them”.

So the question then becomes, did someone send hundreds of JTALERT messages one at a time or has someone figured out a way to spam a large number of people at the same time?

It’s one thing to have someone see you on PSKREPORTER and send you a message if you’re online and need the contact, but this was a bit more than that.

Rob KW2E



locked Re: Spam from K2G

Michael Black
 

Yes...they are spamming everybody.  I've received several of these.



Mike W9MDB




On Monday, July 6, 2020, 11:16:24 PM CDT, Rob Neff via groups.io <rob@...> wrote:


Anyone else get spammed by K2G asking people to QSY to some freq and mode out of the blue? My wife did today. The PC and radio was on but no one was home, and she was still running JTALERT. We came home to find whomever it was had sent a generic message via JTALERT.

When asked about spam she was told “I have received hundreds of messages thanking me for letting them know and inviting them”.

So the question then becomes, did someone send hundreds of JTALERT messages one at a time or has someone figured out a way to spam a large number of people at the same time?

It’s one thing to have someone see you on PSKREPORTER and send you a message if you’re online and need the contact, but this was a bit more than that.

Rob KW2E



locked Spam from K2G

Rob Neff <rob@...>
 

Anyone else get spammed by K2G asking people to QSY to some freq and mode out of the blue? My wife did today. The PC and radio was on but no one was home, and she was still running JTALERT. We came home to find whomever it was had sent a generic message via JTALERT.

When asked about spam she was told “I have received hundreds of messages thanking me for letting them know and inviting them”.

So the question then becomes, did someone send hundreds of JTALERT messages one at a time or has someone figured out a way to spam a large number of people at the same time?

It’s one thing to have someone see you on PSKREPORTER and send you a message if you’re online and need the contact, but this was a bit more than that.

Rob KW2E


locked Re: Phantom Wanted Call Audio

Paul AC9O
 

Thanks Laurie,

I should have thought of that. That's probably what it is.

As always, couldn't do what I do without you!

73
Paul, AC9O


locked Re: JTAlertV2.Manager will not start

John
 

QSL, will do
What is the best place to install it? In it's own directory or in Program Files(x86)?

Thanks
John
On 7/6/2020 9:02 PM, HamApps Support (VK3AMA) wrote:
On 6/07/2020 7:06 am, John wrote:
If you find a solution please let me know. I'm having the same problem. Messages to and from Laurie haven't come up with a solution. I asked if there was a way to force it to start. Laurie said it's hard wired in the program.
After many attempts I occasionally get it started, then after using it I minimize it rather than closing it, that works great until a computer restart is needed.
73, John

John,

Please use the "Help" -> "Contact Support" menu, on the main JTAlert window, to send me your JTAlert files for analysis.

After sending your support request, please do the following...
  • Uninstall JTAlert using Windows Control Panel.
  • Using Windows File Explorer, navigate to the folder where you had JTAlert installed.
  • Delete any remaining files and folders in your old JTAlert install directory.
  • Install JTAlert.

After having done this cleanup and reinstall start JTAlert and leave running for 3 minutes thensend another support request.


Thanks

de Laurie VK3AMA


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locked Re: Not logging some QSOs to DXKeeper. #DXLAB

HamApps Support (VK3AMA)
 

On 7/07/2020 11:05 am, g4wjs wrote:
Maybe if a logging event takes an extended time, due to Internet actions on my very poor shack WiFi connection, the next QSO logged could cause JTAlert to start a new connection while DXKeeper was still finishing its end of the last connection.

Bill,

With the current code, it is not possible to initiate a second logging event when the first hasn't completed or timed-out.

The code is synchronous, with no async callbacks. Once JTAlert has entered the logging/confirmation code (a single method), everything blocks until that method is left. There are two possible exit paths from the logging method (success or failure) and both perform a
TCPCloseSocket operation.

de Laurie VK3AMA


locked Re: Phantom Wanted Call Audio

HamApps Support (VK3AMA)
 

On 7/07/2020 11:48 am, Paul AC9O wrote:
I am having a Wanted Call audio alert without the corresponding color highlight in either JTAlert or WSTX.

I added the 13 Colonies calls and the 3 bonus calls. I worked the 13 and only the 3 remain.

The phantom Wanted Call audio started after working 11 or 12.

I can't figure out what call is triggering the alert. The 3 listed are not in the decodes.

Has anyone else had this happen?

Becomes a mute issus after tomorrow so no big deal.

The Wanted Call is likely generating one or more other Alerts. While all Alerts triggered will generate each of their associated sound files, only one Alert will dictate the coloring of the Callsign and that will be the Alert with the highest priority.

By default the Wanted Callsign Alert is below the priorities of all the other Wanted Alerts.
Move the Wanted Callsigns Alert up the priority list.

   

de Laurie VK3AMA


locked Phantom Wanted Call Audio

Paul AC9O
 

I am having a Wanted Call audio alert without the corresponding color highlight in either JTAlert or WSTX.

I added the 13 Colonies calls and the 3 bonus calls. I worked the 13 and only the 3 remain.

The phantom Wanted Call audio started after working 11 or 12.

I can't figure out what call is triggering the alert. The 3 listed are not in the decodes.

Has anyone else had this happen?

Becomes a mute issus after tomorrow so no big deal.



Thanks and 73
Paul, AC9O


locked Re: s in green dot

HamApps Support (VK3AMA)
 

On 7/07/2020 11:10 am, richard clare wrote:
What does the s in the green dot/no dot signify? Richard wb6ewm

WSJT-X has your rig in Split Mode perhaps. I see the "S" visibility toggle when I toggle the split mode of my rig.

de Laurie VK3AMA


locked Re: Wanted Call needs to ignore Filters

HamApps Support (VK3AMA)
 

On 4/07/2020 9:20 am, WB5JJJ - George wrote:
If you have a Wanted Call and Filters>>QSL Membership Options>>LoTW member selected, the wanted call will NOT alert.  

Perhaps the Filter section should be ignored for any wanted calls, mostly since many of those rare (wanted) calls may not have Internet access or use LoTW.  If No QSL Filters is selected, the grid is filled with everybody, including what you are looking for, which makes it hard to find what call alerted you.  

A current example is the 13 Colonies Special Event.  They do not use LoTW, but if you have that for a requirement, then none of them you have listed as a Wanted Call will be announced.  If you deselect it (set to No), then the grid is overrun with calls.  
--
73's
George - WB5JJJ
George,

Excluding the Wanted Call Alert from obeying any of the Alert Filters set is on the TODO list, but I don't know when that will be implemented, sorry.

All is not lost, since the Wanted Call Alert has its own (user-settable) coloring, it should not be an onerous task to find the Callsign in among the many Callsigns displayed at the end of a period when Filters are not active. It should stand-out, then a single click on the Callsign will setup the WSJT-X DXCall and generate the necessary messages, you just need to "Enable TX". Looking for the alerted Callsign in the WSJT-X window is not the right way to go about it when JTAlert is full of Callsigns, IMO.

de Laurie VK3AMA

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