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locked Re: Undeliverable: LOTW Alert Filter will not dispaly any callsigns

Jim Austin
 

Thank you for the helpful insight. Seems to be a simple fix.
 
73


On Fri, Feb 12, 2021, 12:37 AM HamApps Support (VK3AMA) <vk3ama.ham.apps@...> wrote:
On 12/02/2021 2:22 pm, Jim Austin wrote:

My current set up was working great until yesterday.  Yes I am behind the times as updates go but I do not have the time to do a bunch of changes to the shack.

 

JT Alert 2.15.10

Win 7

WSJT- 2.1.0 – 24 fcd-1

Log4OM 1.39.0.0

Last LOTW update -  2/10/2021

 

Hi guys,

 

Recently JT alert has stopped displaying any call signs. I typically run with the LOTW member alert display but no call signs are are populated.  I can check the No QSL Filter – pass all Alerts, and the call signs will populate the display, however they may or may not use LOTW.  I am wondering if my LOTW file (updates yesterday) as found in Log4OM is corrupt or have I a wrong filter setting.

 

Thanks,

 

W4KCM


JTAlert does not use the Lotw file that WSJT-X or Log4OM use. It uses a high-performance database (compared to the simple text file of the Lotw file) that includes LoTW, eQSL membership data as well as US States and VE provinces for the US & VE Callsigns. This database is automatically included with the JTAlert installer, but goes out of data the longer you keep JTAlert un-upgraded. If you don't want to upgrade JTAlert, the database is available as a separate download which you will need to periodically update, it replaces the database inbuilt into JTAlert.

Assuming that some external factor has not deleted the database file from your PC, the likely cause of Callsigns not being displayed when the Lotw filter is engaged is that you have a date threshold set for LoTW membership.

IMO, Your best to upgrade JTAlert and WSJT-X.

de



locked Re: WSJT-X v2.4.0-rc1 Q65

HamApps Support (VK3AMA)
 

On 12/02/2021 8:32 am, Michael Black via groups.io wrote:
And FST4W?


FST4 is already supported, but FST4W, like WSPR is not. Not much point in alerting on beacon modes, IMO.

de


locked Re: B4 Issue #FT8

HamApps Support (VK3AMA)
 

On 12/02/2021 4:24 am, Charlie Hoffman wrote:
Dave had the correct answer for my case.

I found that the B4 grid information was pulled from my own local logbook (HRDLog)
while the grid info in the lower screen is what is actually decoded.  As soon as I changed
my old HRD log entry from EL09 to DM91, I no longer received an alert.

I don't know why the B4 grid location is not pulled from the XML lookup location.
What is the purpose of me specifying WEB/XML lookup location as QRZ and providing a password?
When does JTAlert use the XML lookup feature and what is it used for?
All B4 checks are done against your local logbook (HRD in your case). The XML service is NEVER used for B4 checks, it is too slow and impracticable. Trying to do B4 lookups for a full band of decodes by going online to do an XML lookup for each callsign would add many seconds to the processing, likely to run into the new FT8 period or beyond. (realistically with current QRZ.com performance and reliability this could take a minute or more for a 40+ decode period)

The XML service is used to gather information about your current QSO partner (the DXCall in WSJT-X) to populate the log fields area of JTAlert for ultimate combining with the minimal QSO data from WSJT-X when you log the contact.

As for changing the previously recorded Grid in your log, why do that, unless you know it was wrong when logged. The station may now be operating from a new location compared to when you logged them in the past.

This difference in grids, current on-air grid compared to previous log entry is why they were not flagged as a B4. The B4 checks consider the Grid (as well as the Mode and Band) in determining the B4 status. If your not interested in chasing unique grids, set the "Ignore Grid" option for the B4 Alert settings.

de Laurie, VK3AMA


locked Re: Undeliverable: LOTW Alert Filter will not dispaly any callsigns

HamApps Support (VK3AMA)
 

On 12/02/2021 2:22 pm, Jim Austin wrote:

My current set up was working great until yesterday.  Yes I am behind the times as updates go but I do not have the time to do a bunch of changes to the shack.

 

JT Alert 2.15.10

Win 7

WSJT- 2.1.0 – 24 fcd-1

Log4OM 1.39.0.0

Last LOTW update -  2/10/2021

 

Hi guys,

 

Recently JT alert has stopped displaying any call signs. I typically run with the LOTW member alert display but no call signs are are populated.  I can check the No QSL Filter – pass all Alerts, and the call signs will populate the display, however they may or may not use LOTW.  I am wondering if my LOTW file (updates yesterday) as found in Log4OM is corrupt or have I a wrong filter setting.

 

Thanks,

 

W4KCM


JTAlert does not use the Lotw file that WSJT-X or Log4OM use. It uses a high-performance database (compared to the simple text file of the Lotw file) that includes LoTW, eQSL membership data as well as US States and VE provinces for the US & VE Callsigns. This database is automatically included with the JTAlert installer, but goes out of data the longer you keep JTAlert un-upgraded. If you don't want to upgrade JTAlert, the database is available as a separate download which you will need to periodically update, it replaces the database inbuilt into JTAlert.

Assuming that some external factor has not deleted the database file from your PC, the likely cause of Callsigns not being displayed when the Lotw filter is engaged is that you have a date threshold set for LoTW membership.

IMO, Your best to upgrade JTAlert and WSJT-X.

de



locked Undeliverable: LOTW Alert Filter will not dispaly any callsigns

Jim Austin
 

My current set up was working great until yesterday.  Yes I am behind the times as updates go but I do not have the time to do a bunch of changes to the shack.

 

JT Alert 2.15.10

Win 7

WSJT- 2.1.0 – 24 fcd-1

Log4OM 1.39.0.0

Last LOTW update -  2/10/2021

 

Hi guys,

 

Recently JT alert has stopped displaying any call signs. I typically run with the LOTW member alert display but no call signs are are populated.  I can check the No QSL Filter – pass all Alerts, and the call signs will populate the display, however they may or may not use LOTW.  I am wondering if my LOTW file (updates yesterday) as found in Log4OM is corrupt or have I a wrong filter setting.

 

Thanks,

 

W4KCM


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locked Re: WSJT-X v2.4.0-rc1 Q65

Jamie GOLLY
 

Laurie, thank you so much for your never ending improvements with. JT Alert!!!


Jamie
K6NGN

On Feb 11, 2021, at 2:30 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV <lists@subich.com> wrote:


And FST4W?
FST4W *IS NOT A QSO MODE* it is a VLF replacement for WSPR (which
is also not supported by JTALERT for very good reason) a beacon
protocol and colossal waste of bandwidth.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 2021-02-11 4:32 PM, Michael Black via groups.io wrote:
And FST4W?
Mike W9MDB
On Thursday, February 11, 2021, 03:29:08 PM CST, HamApps Support (VK3AMA) <vk3ama.ham.apps@gmail.com> wrote:
On 11/02/2021 2:08 pm, William Thomas wrote:
When using the new Q65 mode, I only see my call letters displayed in JTAlert, not the station I’m working. Another operator told me they are seeing the same thing.
73 Bill WT0DX
At the time of the current 2.16.17 JTAlert release (December 6 2020) my "Crystal Ball" was in the shop for repair so I was unable to foresee the availability of the new Q65 mode with the release of WSJT-X 2.4.0-rc1 which occurred on February 3 2021, just shy of 2 months after the current JTAlert release.
The first I became aware of Q65 was in the release announcement of 2.4.0-rc from the post by K1JT. See https://sourceforge.net/p/wsjt/mailman/wsjt-devel/thread/4e54822e-3f67-c564-dd32-0ff13d486715%40princeton.edu/#msg37211965
The next release of JTAlert recognizes Q65 decodes.
de Laurie VK3AMA





locked Re: B4 Issue #FT8

Jim Cooper
 

On 11 Feb 2021 at 9:24, Charlie Hoffman wrote:

I found that the B4 grid information
was pulled from my own local logbook
(HRDLog) while the grid info in the
lower screen is what is actually
decoded. 
don't you think that the decoded grid
might be a bit more accurate that some
archived database? after all, that is the
grid that the operator decided to use at
the present time. He might be portable;
or moved and not yet changed the FCC
address; etc.

As far as the xml lookup, it's 'interesting'
background info.

w2jc


locked Re: WSJT-X v2.4.0-rc1 Q65

Joe Subich, W4TV
 

And FST4W?
FST4W *IS NOT A QSO MODE* it is a VLF replacement for WSPR (which
is also not supported by JTALERT for very good reason) a beacon
protocol and colossal waste of bandwidth.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 2021-02-11 4:32 PM, Michael Black via groups.io wrote:
And FST4W?
Mike W9MDB
On Thursday, February 11, 2021, 03:29:08 PM CST, HamApps Support (VK3AMA) <vk3ama.ham.apps@gmail.com> wrote:
On 11/02/2021 2:08 pm, William Thomas wrote:
When using the new Q65 mode, I only see my call letters displayed in JTAlert, not the station I’m working.  Another operator told me they are seeing the same thing.
73 Bill WT0DX
At the time of the current 2.16.17 JTAlert release (December 6  2020) my "Crystal Ball" was in the shop for repair so I was unable to foresee the availability of the new Q65 mode with the release of WSJT-X 2.4.0-rc1 which occurred on February 3 2021, just shy of 2 months after the current JTAlert release.
The first I became aware of Q65 was in the release announcement of 2.4.0-rc from the post by K1JT. See https://sourceforge.net/p/wsjt/mailman/wsjt-devel/thread/4e54822e-3f67-c564-dd32-0ff13d486715%40princeton.edu/#msg37211965
The next release of JTAlert recognizes Q65 decodes.
de Laurie VK3AMA


locked Re: WSJT-X v2.4.0-rc1 Q65

Michael Black
 

And FST4W?

Mike W9MDB




On Thursday, February 11, 2021, 03:29:08 PM CST, HamApps Support (VK3AMA) <vk3ama.ham.apps@...> wrote:


On 11/02/2021 2:08 pm, William Thomas wrote:

When using the new Q65 mode, I only see my call letters displayed in JTAlert, not the station I’m working.  Another operator told me they are seeing the same thing. 


73 Bill WT0DX


At the time of the current 2.16.17 JTAlert release (December 6  2020) my "Crystal Ball" was in the shop for repair so I was unable to foresee the availability of the new Q65 mode with the release of WSJT-X 2.4.0-rc1 which occurred on February 3 2021, just shy of 2 months after the current JTAlert release.

The first I became aware of Q65 was in the release announcement of 2.4.0-rc from the post by K1JT. See https://sourceforge.net/p/wsjt/mailman/wsjt-devel/thread/4e54822e-3f67-c564-dd32-0ff13d486715%40princeton.edu/#msg37211965

The next release of JTAlert recognizes Q65 decodes.

de Laurie VK3AMA



locked Re: WSJT-X v2.4.0-rc1 Q65

HamApps Support (VK3AMA)
 

On 11/02/2021 2:08 pm, William Thomas wrote:

When using the new Q65 mode, I only see my call letters displayed in JTAlert, not the station I’m working.  Another operator told me they are seeing the same thing. 


73 Bill WT0DX


At the time of the current 2.16.17 JTAlert release (December 6  2020) my "Crystal Ball" was in the shop for repair so I was unable to foresee the availability of the new Q65 mode with the release of WSJT-X 2.4.0-rc1 which occurred on February 3 2021, just shy of 2 months after the current JTAlert release.

The first I became aware of Q65 was in the release announcement of 2.4.0-rc from the post by K1JT. See https://sourceforge.net/p/wsjt/mailman/wsjt-devel/thread/4e54822e-3f67-c564-dd32-0ff13d486715%40princeton.edu/#msg37211965

The next release of JTAlert recognizes Q65 decodes.

de Laurie VK3AMA



locked Re: B4 Issue #FT8

Dave Garber
 

did you confirm that the operator was never at el09, before changing it.  he may have been portable somewhere, which may mean the entry was correct, and you needed the grid after all..

Dave Garber
VE3WEJ / VE3IE


On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 12:24 PM Charlie Hoffman <hoffmanc@...> wrote:
Dave had the correct answer for my case.

I found that the B4 grid information was pulled from my own local logbook (HRDLog)
while the grid info in the lower screen is what is actually decoded.  As soon as I changed
my old HRD log entry from EL09 to DM91, I no longer received an alert.

I don't know why the B4 grid location is not pulled from the XML lookup location.
What is the purpose of me specifying WEB/XML lookup location as QRZ and providing a password?
When does JTAlert use the XML lookup feature and what is it used for?

I need more training ....


locked Re: B4 Issue #FT8

Charlie Hoffman
 

Dave had the correct answer for my case.

I found that the B4 grid information was pulled from my own local logbook (HRDLog)
while the grid info in the lower screen is what is actually decoded.  As soon as I changed
my old HRD log entry from EL09 to DM91, I no longer received an alert.

I don't know why the B4 grid location is not pulled from the XML lookup location.
What is the purpose of me specifying WEB/XML lookup location as QRZ and providing a password?
When does JTAlert use the XML lookup feature and what is it used for?

I need more training ....


locked Re: Voice Alerts for 'POTA'?

Patrick Hung
 

I like your workaround, and will use it till the feature is added (if it's added).
--
73,

Patrick - W6AJR


locked Re: WSJT-X v2.4.0-rc1 Q65

Hasan Schiers N0AN
 

You won't see them in the Grid Display until Laurie adds them. If you are using JTA with a logging program, when call the station in X, it will show up with Call, Name, Grid etc
73, N0AN
Hasan


On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 7:29 AM neil_zampella <neilz@...> wrote:

I'm not sure if Laurie has Q65 setup in JT-Alert, many of the EME modes (outside of JT65/JT9) are not covered either.   

Neil, KN3ILZ


locked Re: WSJT-X v2.4.0-rc1 Q65

neil_zampella
 

I'm not sure if Laurie has Q65 setup in JT-Alert, many of the EME modes (outside of JT65/JT9) are not covered either.   

Neil, KN3ILZ


locked Decode Window Does Not Completely Update

Marlo Montanaro - KA2IRQ
 
Edited

Hi - 

V2.16.17 on Win10, I would have receive going while I was surfing the web.  I'd hear the alert for a new DXCC entity, and I would quickly open the Decode window to see what was there.  I sometimes do not see anything highlighted, indicating the alert.

Hmmmmm.

Then I would open JTAlert's main screen and I would see the highlighted callsign there.

At the end of the *next* cycle, as stations start to populate the decode window, the alert will show up there, usually with two other lines (total of three).  It always seems to be if the alert was in the top 3 lines of the decode window, it *may* not show up at the end of the proper time slot.  It always shows up in the correct time slot (as indicated by the alternating colors of each time slot), just a bit late.


73,

Marlo- KA2IRQ


locked WSJT-X v2.4.0-rc1 Q65

William Thomas
 

When using the new Q65 mode, I only see my call letters displayed in JTAlert, not the station I’m working.  Another operator told me they are seeing the same thing. 


73 Bill WT0DX


locked Re: B4 Issue #FT8

Cleon Rose
 

I was having the same problem. Laurie had me change the alert filter to no QSL and it solved it. 

Cleon WA7RCT


locked Voice Alerts for 'POTA'?

Glen Jenkins WB4KTF
 

Is there an easy way to create a VOICE ALERT in JTAlert what could vocalize "WANTED POTA" (the O vowel is a 'long' O).  Now with many hams activating Parks on The Air, they are sending "CQ POTA CALLSIGN".  I'd like the software to let me know.  I did set up (added the CALL POTA) a visual alert/highlighting of CQs that contain POTA, using the alert for a WANTED CALLSIGN, but it says "Wanted Call"..
Could this be a possible addition to a future release?
--
Glen, WB4KTF, Austin, TX


locked Re: B4 Issue #FT8

Dave Garber
 

the difference i see is you qso before reports a different grid than whan the k5 station is sending.   the dark green is grid wanted, i believe.  that is why the alert.  

Dave Garber
VE3WEJ / VE3IE


On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 1:15 AM Charlie Hoffman <hoffmanc@...> wrote:
I'm having a problem with the B4 filter.
I have it turned on so that I should not see any calls worked B4.
It does not always work correctly.
I also have CQ alerts turned on.
Some calls are still highlighted as a new CQ call even when shows on the same page as worked B4 like the call K5DGC
in this capture.  This is not the first time this has happened.   I've called stations and had them tell me that I worked them B4.
It's embarrassing...
Is this a bug or is there a setting that I need to change.

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