AH0U
Yes.. all my old QSO's show in my new HRD install
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Re: RTTY RU Worked Before Problem - Fault Found
neil_zampella
If one uses the WSJT-X built-in Cabrillo log, it will properly use DG for any FTx contact.
Neil, KN3ILZ
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Re: RTTY RU Worked Before Problem - Fault Found
Jeff Young
I edited a copy of my log and changed the mode from DG back to FT4. Wrote out the cabillio file and it converted FT4 to DG.
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So, my error was using the mode change function to log contacts as DG during the contest. 73 Jeff
-------- Original message -------- From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@...> Date: 1/14/22 6:42 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Support@HamApps.groups.io Subject: Re: [HamApps] RTTY RU Worked Before Problem - Fault Found Without checking the N3FJP software ... it *should* record the QSO with the mode that was used on the air and *export* FT4/FT8 QSOs as DG for the Cabrillo file. ADIF exports should use <MODE:3>FT8 for FT8 and <MODE:4>MFSK<SUBMODE:3>FT4 for LotW. In any case the log should have the correct mode *NOT* DG/RY. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2022-01-14 6:48 PM, Jeff Young wrote: > Will Cabrillo convert an FT4 to DG from a log that logged a QSO as FT4? > If so, that's were I went wrong because I used the option in N3FJP'S > RTTY RU to log contacts as DG immediately in the log during the contest. > Jeff KB3HF > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Jim Cooper <JTalert@...> > Date: 1/14/22 5:40 PM (GMT-06:00) > To: Support@HamApps.groups.io > Subject: Re: [HamApps] RTTY RU Worked Before Problem - Fault Found > > On 15 Jan 2022 at 10:10, HamApps Support (VK3AMA) > wrote: > > > Without any testing done yet, I have > > located the cause of the > > inconsistent B4 reporting. It is due > > to the mode logged as "DG" rather than > > "FT4". JTAlert would never find FT4 > > worked B4 QSOs which are logged as > > "DG". That is not a mode JTAlert is > > looking for. I note that you have a > > mixture of "FT4" and "DG" logged for > > the contest. > > FYI, I can note for you that the RU contest > Cabrillo file submission wants RY for RTTY > contacts and DG for all other digital contacts. > > 2.4 In the Cabrillo formatted log, RTTY contacts use RY and > all other digital modes use the DG > mode abbreviations. > > I don't know if these get put into the ADIF log file, > but that's basically where the DG comes from. > > w2jc >
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Re: RTTY RU Worked Before Problem - Fault Found
Joe Subich, W4TV
Without checking the N3FJP software ... it *should* record the QSO with
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the mode that was used on the air and *export* FT4/FT8 QSOs as DG for the Cabrillo file. ADIF exports should use <MODE:3>FT8 for FT8 and <MODE:4>MFSK<SUBMODE:3>FT4 for LotW. In any case the log should have the correct mode *NOT* DG/RY. 73, ... Joe, W4TV
On 2022-01-14 6:48 PM, Jeff Young wrote:
Will Cabrillo convert an FT4 to DG from a log that logged a QSO as FT4? If so, that's were I went wrong because I used the option in N3FJP'S RTTY RU to log contacts as DG immediately in the log during the contest.
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Re: RTTY RU Worked Before Problem - Fault Found
JTAlert Support (VK3AMA)
On 15/01/2022 10:40 am, Jim Cooper
wrote:
FYI, I can note for you that the RU contest Cabrillo file submission wants RY for RTTY contacts and DG for all other digital contacts. 2.4 In the Cabrillo formatted log, RTTY contacts use RY and all other digital modes use the DG mode abbreviations. I don't know if these get put into the ADIF log file, but that's basically where the DG comes from. w2jc It looks like a bad design decision by N3FJP, IMHO. changing the logged mode to meet the requirements of a Cabrillo log submission. If it was me, I would log the mode correctly, as used on-air, then change the mode as part of the Cabrillo file generation. de Laurie VK3AMA
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Re: RTTY RU Worked Before Problem - Fault Found
JTAlert Support (VK3AMA)
On 15/01/2022 10:36 am, Jeff Young
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FYI, I counted over 70 QSOs logged as FT4 , not one. Regardless, "DG" is not a mode that JTAlert looks for when doing its B4 checks. Since the N3FJP logger is remapping the mode during the logging, you need to set the "Alerts -> Worked B4" to ignore the mode. de Laurie VK3AMA
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Re: RTTY RU Worked Before Problem - Fault Found
Jeff Young
That's the solution when using log software that is specific to the contest and is a unique log compared to your main log that is used everyday. I didn't notice that option because how JTAert reads the file for B4 wasn't obvious to me
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Jeff KB3HF
-------- Original message -------- From: "HamApps Support (VK3AMA)" <vk3ama.ham.apps@...> Date: 1/14/22 5:44 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Support@HamApps.groups.io Subject: Re: [HamApps] RTTY RU Worked Before Problem - Fault Found On 15/01/2022 10:16 am, Michael Black
via groups.io wrote:
Don't know. If it is the case than the JTAlert B4 options need to be set to "ignore mode" in order to avoid dupes when a previous QSO was logged as DG and JTAlert not picking them up when the mode is FT4. de Laurie VK3AMA
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Re: RTTY RU Worked Before Problem - Fault Found
Jeff Young
Will Cabrillo convert an FT4 to DG from a log that logged a QSO as FT4? If so, that's were I went wrong because I used the option in N3FJP'S RTTY RU to log contacts as DG immediately in the log during the contest.
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Jeff KB3HF
-------- Original message -------- From: Jim Cooper <JTalert@...> Date: 1/14/22 5:40 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Support@HamApps.groups.io Subject: Re: [HamApps] RTTY RU Worked Before Problem - Fault Found wrote: > Without any testing done yet, I have > located the cause of the > inconsistent B4 reporting. It is due > to the mode logged as "DG" rather than > "FT4". JTAlert would never find FT4 > worked B4 QSOs which are logged as > "DG". That is not a mode JTAlert is > looking for. I note that you have a > mixture of "FT4" and "DG" logged for > the contest. FYI, I can note for you that the RU contest Cabrillo file submission wants RY for RTTY contacts and DG for all other digital contacts. 2.4 In the Cabrillo formatted log, RTTY contacts use RY and all other digital modes use the DG mode abbreviations. I don't know if these get put into the ADIF log file, but that's basically where the DG comes from. w2jc
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Re: RTTY RU Worked Before Problem - Fault Found
JTAlert Support (VK3AMA)
On 15/01/2022 10:16 am, Michael Black
via groups.io wrote:
Don't know. If it is the case than the JTAlert B4 options need to be set to "ignore mode" in order to avoid dupes when a previous QSO was logged as DG and JTAlert not picking them up when the mode is FT4. de Laurie VK3AMA
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Re: RTTY RU Worked Before Problem - Fault Found
Jim Cooper
On 15 Jan 2022 at 10:10, HamApps Support (VK3AMA)
wrote: Without any testing done yet, I haveFYI, I can note for you that the RU contest Cabrillo file submission wants RY for RTTY contacts and DG for all other digital contacts. 2.4 In the Cabrillo formatted log, RTTY contacts use RY and all other digital modes use the DG mode abbreviations. I don't know if these get put into the ADIF log file, but that's basically where the DG comes from. w2jc
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Re: RTTY RU Worked Before Problem - Fault Found
Jeff Young
Laurie,
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I changed the mode to DG because the ARRL RTTY RU rules said RTTY QSOs were to be logged as "RY" and Digital modes were to be logged as "DG". The one FT4 you found was because I forgot to change the mode. This apparently is a new feature in N3FJPs software to comply with the rules. 73 JEFF KB3HF
-------- Original message -------- From: "HamApps Support (VK3AMA)" <vk3ama.ham.apps@...> Date: 1/14/22 5:11 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Support@HamApps.groups.io Subject: Re: [HamApps] RTTY RU Worked Before Problem - Fault Found I received your RU log, thanks. Without any testing done yet, I have located the cause of the inconsistent B4 reporting. It is due to the mode logged as "DG" rather than "FT4". JTAlert would never find FT4 worked B4 QSOs which are logged as "DG". That is not a mode JTAlert is looking for. I note that you have a mixture of "FT4" and "DG" logged for the contest. This looks like a N3FJP setup issue to me. If "DG" is an acceptable mode for the N3FJP contest loggers then I will have to extend JTAlert to look for that mode when doing B4 checks. I am reluctant to do that at this time since your log has a mix of modes which may be a setup issue or a problem within the logger. I will wait and see. de Laurie VK3AMA
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Re: RTTY RU Worked Before Problem - Fault Found
Michael Black
Would that be RTTY perhaps? Mike W9MDB
On Friday, January 14, 2022, 05:11:02 PM CST, HamApps Support (VK3AMA) <vk3ama.ham.apps@...> wrote:
Jeff,
I received your RU log, thanks. Without any testing done yet, I have located the cause of the inconsistent B4 reporting. It is due to the mode logged as "DG" rather than "FT4". JTAlert would never find FT4 worked B4 QSOs which are logged as "DG". That is not a mode JTAlert is looking for. I note that you have a mixture of "FT4" and "DG" logged for the contest. This looks like a N3FJP setup issue to me. If "DG" is an acceptable mode for the N3FJP contest loggers then I will have to extend JTAlert to look for that mode when doing B4 checks. I am reluctant to do that at this time since your log has a mix of modes which may be a setup issue or a problem within the logger. I will wait and see. de Laurie VK3AMA
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Re: RTTY RU Worked Before Problem - Fault Found
JTAlert Support (VK3AMA)
Jeff,
I received your RU log, thanks. Without any testing done yet, I have located the cause of the inconsistent B4 reporting. It is due to the mode logged as "DG" rather than "FT4". JTAlert would never find FT4 worked B4 QSOs which are logged as "DG". That is not a mode JTAlert is looking for. I note that you have a mixture of "FT4" and "DG" logged for the contest. This looks like a N3FJP setup issue to me. If "DG" is an acceptable mode for the N3FJP contest loggers then I will have to extend JTAlert to look for that mode when doing B4 checks. I am reluctant to do that at this time since your log has a mix of modes which may be a setup issue or a problem within the logger. I will wait and see. de Laurie VK3AMA
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JTAlert Support (VK3AMA)
On 15/01/2022 9:36 am, AH0U wrote:
had to get a new computer and installed WSJT, JTAlert and HRD all work fine but now I notice after I did a log scan in JTAlert, it does not pick up the log entries made from the old computer... For example I have 244 confirmed on 12 meters and JTAlert says 27... just those made after I installed the new computer.... correct this??? The only way JTAlert will pickup the HRD log QSOs of your old PC is by bringing those old QSOs over to your new HRD install. Did you update your new HRD install with an import of your old log? de Laurie VK3AMA
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AH0U
I had to get a new computer and installed WSJT, JTAlert and HRD all work fine but now I notice after I did a log scan in JTAlert, it does not pick up the log entries made from the old computer... For example I have 244 confirmed on 12 meters and JTAlert says 27... just those made after I installed the new computer.... correct this???
AH0U
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Re: RTTY RU Worked Before Problem
JTAlert Support (VK3AMA)
On 14/01/2022 8:19 am, Jeff Young
wrote:
Jeff, If JTAlert is confirming the QSO was logged, which involves a direct read of the physical log file, then the B4 checks which are performed against the physical log file should also be accurate. I don't have an explanation at this time why the B4 status is lost on a band change, it appears that something is not working correctly. It may be in the JTAlert code in relation to the changes necessary to utilize one of the N3FJP contest loggers rather than ACLog. I will need to reinstall my N3FJP software and setup a contest test environment to run some tests and hopefully can replicate the issue. If you don't mind, it would be helpful if I could get a zipped copy of your N3FJP RU contest log. It is best if I can test against real log data rather than artificial data. Please send it to me direct if you can. to VK3AMA.Ham.Apps [at] gmail.com Regarding my question about JTAlert restarts, that would only have been an issue if the wrong log file was being referenced and the internal B4 status cache being cleared on restarts. You can ignore the question since you were getting logging confirmations indicating the correct log was set. de Laurie VK3AMA
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Re: accented international characters
Barry VA7GEM
On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 02:09 PM, HamApps Support (VK3AMA) wrote:
On 8/01/2022 6:18 am, Barry VA7GEM via groups.io wrote:For those following this threead. Quote from Mike "But I have this and we'll tackle it. (That said - 100% of the dev hours right now are going into the current feature release. We'll need to get that out first.)" Will see how long this takes to fix. cheers de Barry
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Yes. The callsign lookup in HRD Logbook runs when the QSO goes into HRD Logbook using the UDP "QSO Forwarding" method. The callsign lookup does not function with the "TCP logging" that was put in-place "long before the QSO Forwarding interface." Because of this, HRD users who wish to use the data in their log to populate lookup information (previous Comments; more detailed location information that may be in their logs in previous QSOs with that station) are unable to do so using the "TCP logging" method "from long ago." We realize that there's not much information on this TCP logging method. Now that most applications support the UDP (QSO Forwarding) method, it's likely that the TCP logging method will be depreciated in time. We would like to prepare for this now by asking if there's a way that JTAlert can connect to the log to load the data necessary to build the B4 and "wanted" items... but use the UDP QSO Forwarding method for sending QSOs to the log. As Mike (WA9PIE) tells me, "We fully embrace JTAlert. We don't want anything to break in JTAlert as we move HRD forward." With that in mind, is there a solution possible?
73, Ferry PD9FER
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Re: RTTY RU Worked Before Problem
Jeff Young
In previous email, contest logged should be contact logged. Darn auto correct.
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Jeff
-------- Original message -------- From: "HamApps Support (VK3AMA)" <vk3ama.ham.apps@...> Date: 1/13/22 3:00 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Support@HamApps.groups.io Subject: Re: [HamApps] RTTY RU Worked Before Problem On 13/01/2022 9:49 am, Jeff Young
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Was there a JTAlert restart between your initial 20m activity and when you went back to 20m after working other bands? Did JTAlert confirm that the QSO was correctly logged? If you had confirmations turned off, it may be a case of JTAlert not reading the correct log file and you never seeing the warning. What you describe suggests to me that you don't have the correct logfile selected in the manual configuration, A JTAlert logging confirmation success or failure popup will answer that question for me. de Laurie VK3AMA
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Re: RTTY RU Worked Before Problem
Jeff Young
Laurie,
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Yes. I receive a confirmation from JTAert that the contest was logged and the logged QSO shows up immediately in the N3FJP log on my second screen. Also, there was no restart of JTAlert during the contest. What would happen if the software is restarted? Thanks Jeff KB3HF
-------- Original message -------- From: "HamApps Support (VK3AMA)" <vk3ama.ham.apps@...> Date: 1/13/22 3:00 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Support@HamApps.groups.io Subject: Re: [HamApps] RTTY RU Worked Before Problem On 13/01/2022 9:49 am, Jeff Young
wrote:
Was there a JTAlert restart between your initial 20m activity and when you went back to 20m after working other bands? Did JTAlert confirm that the QSO was correctly logged? If you had confirmations turned off, it may be a case of JTAlert not reading the correct log file and you never seeing the warning. What you describe suggests to me that you don't have the correct logfile selected in the manual configuration, A JTAlert logging confirmation success or failure popup will answer that question for me. de Laurie VK3AMA
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