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locked JT Alert 2.50.4 Constant crashing

N8QAR@...
 

Recently upgraded to latest JT Alert. Crashes constantly.
-Ribbon menu bar disappears and program must restarted.
-Only gets one set of decodes then stops decoding
-Unable to initiate help request through program
-Inconsistently receive error message pasted below:
-Have reverted back to 2.16.17 however it now crashes unless sound is kept off.
-using with WSJT-X and HRD
-Long time user and the first (but incredibly frustrating) problem.
Any assistance is greatly appreciated---Brian

JTAlert Instance       : #1
JTAlert Start Params   : /wsjtx
WSJT-X Window Title    : WSJT-X   v2.4.0   by K1JT, G4WJS, K9AN, and IV3NWV
WSJT-X Command Line    : "C:\WSJT\wsjtx\bin\wsjtx.exe"
WSJT-X   --rig-name    :
WSJT-X Config File     : C:\Users\Administrator1\AppData\Local\WSJT-X\WSJT-X.ini
WSJT-X Version         :
WSJT-X Revision        :
WSJT-X Spec Op Mode    : None
WSJT-X UDP ID          :
WSJT-X UDP Port        : 2237
WSJT-X UDP Server      : 224.0.0.1
WSJT-X UDP MCast on LB : True
WSJT-X UDP Max Schema  :

==================================================
UDP Ports used
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JTAlert.exe           : 53437 61711
JTAlertV2.Manager.exe : 52010 52011 52012
JTAlertV2.Decodes.exe :


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Audio output devices
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[1] Speakers (USB Audio CODEC )
[2] Speaker/Headphone (Realtek High Definition Audio)
[3] SONY TV XV (Intel(R) Display Audio)


==================================================
JTAlertV2.Manager (2.50.4.0) status
(2021-07-25 13:27:34 utc)
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CLR Version       : 5.0.8
NET Framework     : .NET 5.0.8
Architecture      : x64 64bit
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UDP Router        : Initialized : YES (WSJT-X)
Audio             : Initialized : YES (3 output devices)
Activity Service  : Initialized : YES (stopped)
Messaging Service : Initialized : YES (started : 17)
HamSpots Service  : Initialized : YES
QRZ Xml           : Initialized : YES
HamQth Xml        : Initialized : YES
QRZ Log           : Initialized : YES
HamQth Log        : Initialized : YES
ClubLog Log       : Initialized : YES
Eqsl Log          : Initialized : YES
HrdLog Log        : Initialized : YES
DXLab DDE         : Initialized : YES
User Alert        : Initialized : YES
Updates Check     : Initialized : YES (started : 3600)
Environment Check : Initialized : YES (started : 3600)
Maintenance       : Initialized : YES (started : 3600)
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locked Startup: WSJT-X or JTDX

Jeff - G4IUA
 

On startup (and after running JTDX) I receive the following, inviting me to choose between WSJT-X or JTDX.  As I almost always use JTDX now how can I avoid seeing this message?  The shortcut points to the following target;  "C:\Program Files (x86)\HamApps\JTAlert\JTAlert.exe"




Jeff - G4IUA


locked Re: Deliberate QRM on 6m ??? July 25 @ 00:55

Bob Frostholm
 

Hi Mike

The noise is gone this AM... It was isolated to exactly 2.5KHz BW and precisely at 50.313 to 50.3155 KHz   FT8 slot only

73

Bob

Ko6Lu
On 7/25/2021 6:40 AM, Michael Black via groups.io wrote:

If have any AC adaptors like 24VAC for sprinkler or alarm systems those are great pickup sources from all the wiring involved (nice big antenna field on those systems).

So you can choke those AC wires too and reduce some of the problem.

Mike W9MDB




On Sunday, July 25, 2021, 08:30:01 AM CDT, Michael Aust via groups.io <ava622@...> wrote:


On 6meters I have seen when running
High Power RF gets into nearby motion
activated lights, etc

See instances where mix products pump
some of these cheap wall warts become
great RFI mixers as well 

If you use say, 32 Watts , no amp after a
while does it go away ?

73
Mike


--
Bob
KO6LU


locked Re: Deliberate QRM on 6m ??? July 25 @ 00:55

Bob Frostholm
 

Hi Mike

Noise is gone this AM... I didn't transmit... just turned on the radio and the noise was there... rebooted the computer and TS990 and still there. The curious part is that the nisoe BW was exactly 2.5KHz and exactly on the FT8 spectrum of 6m.

73

Bob

Ko6Lu
On 7/25/2021 6:29 AM, Michael Aust via groups.io wrote:

On 6meters I have seen when running
High Power RF gets into nearby motion
activated lights, etc

See instances where mix products pump
some of these cheap wall warts become
great RFI mixers as well 

If you use say, 32 Watts , no amp after a
while does it go away ?

73
Mike


--
Bob
KO6LU


locked Re: Deliberate QRM on 6m ??? July 25 @ 00:55

Bob Frostholm
 

Hi George,

Noise is gone this AM... I've been very active on 6m and never seen it before. It was only 2.5KHz wide... exactly in the 6m FT8 spectrum... very weird. Antenna is a vertical, so more likely to pick up noise but it was the precise BW of it exactly in the FT8 range that made me suspicious.

73

Bob

Ko6Lu
On 7/25/2021 6:18 AM, WB5JJJ - George via groups.io wrote:

Since it appears so strong (red bars), do you live near a hospital, clinic or any commercial establishment?  Is it 24/7?  If you turn your antenna, does is fade in/out?  Is it just on 50.313 or up and down the band?  Can you hear anything between the FT8 cycles?  These might narrow it down some.  

Also, it could be something newly added or old and about to fail, in your own house.  I would turn off each circuit breaker one at a time and see if the QRM disappears.  I had a couple of wall warts that were the culprits at my QTH on 160m.  As for 6m, sometimes I have QRM that comes and goes as I turn my antenna AWAY from the downtown area where I live.  Could be local since it appears to be a very wide direction it comes from.  More distant QRM would have a much more selective or sharper beam heading.  
--
73's
George - WB5JJJ
Hamshack Holine #4969

--
Bob
KO6LU


locked Re: 13 Second Lag Between Visual and Audible Alert #FT8

Glen Jenkins WB4KTF
 

Hello Laurie,
The Sound Play Limit was set at 'NO LIMIT', so that is not the cause.
I'll continue to test various things and report back when I figure more out.
I did try rebooting the Surface and restarting both WSJT-X and JTAlert, no change so far.
The alert sound still starts to play at the 10-11th second of the following cycle after the decode in WXJT-X and Callsigns/All Decodes window is filled.
--
Glen, WB4KTF, Austin, TX


locked Re: Deliberate QRM on 6m ??? July 25 @ 00:55

Michael Black
 

If have any AC adaptors like 24VAC for sprinkler or alarm systems those are great pickup sources from all the wiring involved (nice big antenna field on those systems).

So you can choke those AC wires too and reduce some of the problem.

Mike W9MDB




On Sunday, July 25, 2021, 08:30:01 AM CDT, Michael Aust via groups.io <ava622@...> wrote:


On 6meters I have seen when running
High Power RF gets into nearby motion
activated lights, etc

See instances where mix products pump
some of these cheap wall warts become
great RFI mixers as well 

If you use say, 32 Watts , no amp after a
while does it go away ?

73
Mike


locked Re: Deliberate QRM on 6m ??? July 25 @ 00:55

Michael Aust
 

On 6meters I have seen when running
High Power RF gets into nearby motion
activated lights, etc

See instances where mix products pump
some of these cheap wall warts become
great RFI mixers as well 

If you use say, 32 Watts , no amp after a
while does it go away ?

73
Mike


locked Re: Deliberate QRM on 6m ??? July 25 @ 00:55

WB5JJJ - George
 

Since it appears so strong (red bars), do you live near a hospital, clinic or any commercial establishment?  Is it 24/7?  If you turn your antenna, does is fade in/out?  Is it just on 50.313 or up and down the band?  Can you hear anything between the FT8 cycles?  These might narrow it down some.  

Also, it could be something newly added or old and about to fail, in your own house.  I would turn off each circuit breaker one at a time and see if the QRM disappears.  I had a couple of wall warts that were the culprits at my QTH on 160m.  As for 6m, sometimes I have QRM that comes and goes as I turn my antenna AWAY from the downtown area where I live.  Could be local since it appears to be a very wide direction it comes from.  More distant QRM would have a much more selective or sharper beam heading.  
--
73's
George - WB5JJJ
Hamshack Holine #4969


locked Re: Decode line not appearing after upgrade to 2.50.4

Joe Subich, W4TV
 

The problem is I do not have the lines of decoded callsigns just
under the JTAletr title bar, between the titla bar and my WSJT-x
title, where I have JTAlert window docked at the top.
The callsigns list in the Main menu has been replaced by a free
standing Calisigns window in JTAlert 2.50.x and later. Please
click Help-> Open JT Alert 2.50 features Help File -> Callsigns
Window for details.

To activate the Callsigns Window, click View -> Callsigns Window or
strike F3.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 2021-07-25 8:49 AM, William Schwiegeraht wrote:
I cannot find any pertinent topics on this when searching the group and thought I'd ask.
I upgraded this morning to 2.50.4 - I hadn't upgraded in quite some time - at least 6 months.
I disabled virus scanning temporarily, performed the 2.50.4 install, then manually added the files that get detected by McAffe back to the exclusions list as I normally do.
The problem is I do not have the lines of decoded callsigns just under the JTAletr title bar, between the titla bar and my WSJT-x title, where I have JTAlert window docked at the top.  I know there were settings to turn this on and to select how many lines (call signs) that would be displayed, but I cannot find those settings in any menu anymore.
Below is a snip of my display.  The red line indicates where these call signs would come up with every decode cycle.
Any help would be appreciated.
Bill, N8KSG


locked Decode line not appearing after upgrade to 2.50.4

William Schwiegeraht
 

I cannot find any pertinent topics on this when searching the group and thought I'd ask.
I upgraded this morning to 2.50.4 - I hadn't upgraded in quite some time - at least 6 months.
I disabled virus scanning temporarily, performed the 2.50.4 install, then manually added the files that get detected by McAffe back to the exclusions list as I normally do.
The problem is I do not have the lines of decoded callsigns just under the JTAletr title bar, between the titla bar and my WSJT-x title, where I have JTAlert window docked at the top.  I know there were settings to turn this on and to select how many lines (call signs) that would be displayed, but I cannot find those settings in any menu anymore.
Below is a snip of my display.  The red line indicates where these call signs would come up with every decode cycle.

Any help would be appreciated.
Bill, N8KSG


locked Re: Needed DXCC

JTAlert Support (VK3AMA)
 

On 25/07/2021 9:02 am, Dan Bathker wrote:
I only use the logger internal to WSJT-X, my apologies for not mentioning that in my earlier email.

My WSJT-X log directory contains *3* log files:

1) WSJTX.log               (text file)
2) WSJTX_log.adi         (adi format)
3) WSJT-X _syslog.log  (text file)

So my question is, which of those three files does JTAlert access when a user requests "Rebuild Alert Database"?

JTAlert does not use any of the WSJT-X internal logs. It doesn't read them and does not log to them.

There are several reasons why JTAlert does not use the WSJT-X, but the most pertinent is that they don't contain any QSL information for the QSOs so would only be suitable for considering an Alert entity (eg dxcc, State, etc) as no longer needed by simply working a station. They are not suitable if you want an entity to be considered no longer needed after the QSO has been Confirmed. For example, I personally only consider an Entity as no longer needed once it has been confirmed by an LoTW confirmation other wise it stays in the Alert database to be Alerted when another station is decoded.

I strongly suggest you consider using a dedicated logger. My preference is DXLab DXKeeper.

de Laurie VK3AMA


locked Re: Needed DXCC

Michael Black
 

You select what log to use -- but it should be the adi file.  The others are not QSO logs at all.

Strongly recommend you get one the logging programs though...will make your life much easier although they all have a bit of a learning curve.

I'm a fan of Log4OMV2.  https://www.log4om.com/

Mike W9MDB






On Saturday, July 24, 2021, 06:02:10 PM CDT, Dan Bathker <d.bathker@...> wrote:



Laurie

I only use the logger internal to WSJT-X, my apologies for not mentioning that in my earlier email.

My WSJT-X log directory contains *3* log files:

1) WSJTX.log               (text file)
2) WSJTX_log.adi         (adi format)
3) WSJT-X _syslog.log  (text file)

So my question is, which of those three files does JTAlert access when a user requests "Rebuild Alert Database"?

73 and TNX 4 JTAlert = a great op aid

Dan K6BLG
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On 7/24/2021 2:11 PM, HamApps Support (VK3AMA) wrote:
On 25/07/2021 6:21 am, Dan Bathker wrote:

About "Settings -> Rebuild Alert Database" I need to know which file and its location that will be accessed by JTAlert.

Dan K6BLG

The rebuild operation accesses the log file used by your logger. The name and location of the log file will vary depending on your JTAlert settings for the enabled log.

de Laurie VK3AMA


--
Dan Bathker
PO Box 23
La Canada CA 91012

d.bathker@...

Virus-free. www.avast.com


locked Re: Deliberate QRM on 6m ??? July 25 @ 00:55

Bob Frostholm
 

I never ends.... FT8 xmit stops at about 13 seconds...this is just continuous and the bandwidth is 2500 Hz... directly in 6m FT spectrum

looking at my decodes, there are no particularly big signal stations

73

Bob

Ko6Lu
On 7/24/2021 6:14 PM, David De Coons via groups.io wrote:

Probably someone who does not have their TX audio source set correctly.

Dave wo2x


On Jul 24, 2021, at 8:58 PM, Bob Frostholm <bob@...> wrote:



Anyone else seeing this.. All other FT8 band segments are fine... and amazingly, I'm getting decodes thru this hash.... Bandwidth is limited to FT8 frequency of 50.313MHz

Anyone have a clue as to the source ?


-- 
73

Bob

Ko6Lu

--
Bob
KO6LU

Attachments:


--
Bob
KO6LU


locked Re: Deliberate QRM on 6m ??? July 25 @ 00:55

David De Coons
 

Probably someone who does not have their TX audio source set correctly.

Dave wo2x


On Jul 24, 2021, at 8:58 PM, Bob Frostholm <bob@...> wrote:



Anyone else seeing this.. All other FT8 band segments are fine... and amazingly, I'm getting decodes thru this hash.... Bandwidth is limited to FT8 frequency of 50.313MHz

Anyone have a clue as to the source ?


-- 
73

Bob

Ko6Lu

--
Bob
KO6LU

Attachments:


locked Deliberate QRM on 6m ??? July 25 @ 00:55

Bob Frostholm
 

Anyone else seeing this.. All other FT8 band segments are fine... and amazingly, I'm getting decodes thru this hash.... Bandwidth is limited to FT8 frequency of 50.313MHz

Anyone have a clue as to the source ?


-- 
73

Bob

Ko6Lu

--
Bob
KO6LU


locked Re: Needed DXCC

Dan Bathker
 


Laurie

I only use the logger internal to WSJT-X, my apologies for not mentioning that in my earlier email.

My WSJT-X log directory contains *3* log files:

1) WSJTX.log               (text file)
2) WSJTX_log.adi         (adi format)
3) WSJT-X _syslog.log  (text file)

So my question is, which of those three files does JTAlert access when a user requests "Rebuild Alert Database"?

73 and TNX 4 JTAlert = a great op aid

Dan K6BLG
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------



On 7/24/2021 2:11 PM, HamApps Support (VK3AMA) wrote:
On 25/07/2021 6:21 am, Dan Bathker wrote:

About "Settings -> Rebuild Alert Database" I need to know which file and its location that will be accessed by JTAlert.

Dan K6BLG

The rebuild operation accesses the log file used by your logger. The name and location of the log file will vary depending on your JTAlert settings for the enabled log.

de Laurie VK3AMA


--
Dan Bathker
PO Box 23
La Canada CA 91012

d.bathker@...

Virus-free. www.avast.com


locked Re: Icons used on call sign window in JT Alert X v2.50.4

Bill Axelrod
 

Thank you, David.  I found it under the callsigns menu in the Windows pop-up menu that opened after pressing the F2 key.

73...   Bill


locked Re: Caller selection not setting WSJT-X to enable transmit #FT8

JTAlert Support (VK3AMA)
 

On 24/07/2021 9:48 pm, Neal Keating wrote:
I am running JTAlert version: 2.50.4 with WSJT-X version: 2.4.0

I notice a problem with my setup - If a station calls me it shows up correctly on JTAlert and sounds the set alarm.  However, If it click on the station in the All Decodes window it doesn't enable transmit on WSJT-X.  I have to select the station from WSJT-X to reply.

In JTAlert, I have filters for CQ and my call and it works normally.  When I select a station calling CQ, JTAlert sets WSJT-X to enable transmit and I can reply normally.

Is this a problem with my configuration/setup, an issue, or is this expected.

Thanks in advance for reply... Neal

If WSJT-X is responding to JTAlert Callsign click events by setting the DXCall then JTAlert <-> WSJT-X UDP comms is working correctly.

There is nothing else that can be done by JTAlert. The decision to enable TX within WSJT-X is controlled by WSJT-X itself. There is no facility within the WSJT-X UDP API for enabling Tx. WSJT-X decides if it will enable Tx based on the type of decode, I recall that will only occur for CQ decodes.

de Laurie VK3AMA


locked Re: Needed DXCC

JTAlert Support (VK3AMA)
 

On 25/07/2021 6:21 am, Dan Bathker wrote:

About "Settings -> Rebuild Alert Database" I need to know which file and its location that will be accessed by JTAlert.

Dan K6BLG

The rebuild operation accesses the log file used by your logger. The name and location of the log file will vary depending on your JTAlert settings for the enabled log.

de Laurie VK3AMA

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