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locked Re: Application Auto-Start Issue

HamApps Support (VK3AMA)
 

On 4/03/2021 9:03 am, Patrick Hung wrote:
I've set JT-Alert to auto-start both WSJT-X and ACLog, but the two apps can't seem to start in the right order. ACLog usually launches right away, which for some reason takes away the TCP port from WSJT-X, which prevents WSJT-X from auto-starting the radio and getting going. Upon an immediate second try, after quitting out of all three programs, WSJT-X starts quickly (beats ACLog to the port??), and all is well. I don't understand it. Any ideas?


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73,

Patrick - W6AJR

Increase the delay for wsjtx.exe entry (#1). The delay is applied after an entry is started, so you only have 1.5 seconds between starting wsjtx (#1) and aclog (#2). The 6 sec delay for aclog can be reduced as all that does is delay JTAlert from completing its startup.

de Laurie VK3AMA


locked Re: Application Auto-Start Issue

Wyndell - K5WJF
 

YMMV but I have win4icomsuite start up ACLog, w5jtx and jtalert. Jtalert will have a pop up about which version to start I just wait till w5jtx is running then select w5jtx.  Now to see if fldigi and run with or instead of w5jtx…

 

Wyndell

Resistance is NOT futile, it's Voltage divided by Current

 

From: Support@HamApps.groups.io <Support@HamApps.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Hung
Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2021 16:04
To: Support@HamApps.groups.io
Subject: [HamApps] Application Auto-Start Issue

 

I've set JT-Alert to auto-start both WSJT-X and ACLog, but the two apps can't seem to start in the right order. ACLog usually launches right away, which for some reason takes away the TCP port from WSJT-X, which prevents WSJT-X from auto-starting the radio and getting going. Upon an immediate second try, after quitting out of all three programs, WSJT-X starts quickly (beats ACLog to the port??), and all is well. I don't understand it. Any ideas?


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73,

Patrick - W6AJR




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locked Re: JTAlert makes PC slow

K0GU
 

Can JTAlert cause the kind of slowdown mentioned above when using several instances with no connected log program? 


locked Application Auto-Start Issue

Patrick Hung
 

I've set JT-Alert to auto-start both WSJT-X and ACLog, but the two apps can't seem to start in the right order. ACLog usually launches right away, which for some reason takes away the TCP port from WSJT-X, which prevents WSJT-X from auto-starting the radio and getting going. Upon an immediate second try, after quitting out of all three programs, WSJT-X starts quickly (beats ACLog to the port??), and all is well. I don't understand it. Any ideas?


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73,

Patrick - W6AJR


locked Re: Dozens of WSJT-X config files

Laurie, VK3AMA
 

On 4/03/2021 7:15 am, Jim N6VH wrote:
(a total of 8, not counting the current one) only go back to Feb 25. I don't know what is different in our setups
I know a difference. You like myself are running an unreleased experimental version of JTAlert, while the others reporting old file accumulation are running the public release.

The differences in the two releases is that the file responsible for removing the old files, JTAlertV2.Manager.exe has changed. The public release uses the .NET Framework 4.7.2 or later, while the experimental release uses .NET CORE 5.0 or later. That is the only difference I can see. The actual code for identifying the old files and removing them is identical for both releases (it was a straight code copy), it is the framework that the Manager is based on being the only difference. Whether this is the cause or just a red-herring we will discover when I finally publish the new JTAlert release.

de Laurie VK3AMA


locked Re: Dozens of WSJT-X config files

HamApps Support (VK3AMA)
 

On 3/03/2021 6:16 am, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
I had some 40 files accumulated in the two weeks since I've been
back on the air (finally got an antenna up).  Deleted all except
config.sqlite and the last three days of dated back-ups.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV

Joe,

If you don't mind, please let the backup files accumulate until they are older than 9 days. Then once JTAlert has been running for at least 5 minutes after a restart (to give time for the cleanup code to kick-in) send me a support request. After sending the support request you can delete the old files. Some debug data is being captured if there is an error, but with where it is in the code it will not be triggered until old files are found and the delete is actioned, thus the need to wait for an accumulation of old files.

Thanks.
de Laurie VK3AMA


locked Re: Dozens of WSJT-X config files

HamApps Support (VK3AMA)
 

On 4/03/2021 6:05 am, Andrew Buza; KF6LU wrote:
Found 406 files. As with others, my dates go back to August 22, 2020

A number of reports of old backup config files not being automatically removed with files dated from August 2020 suggests the JTAlert release made at that time is the likely cause. 2.16.11 was released on 12-Aug-2020. It was a significant release in that it introduced multicast UDP for the first time. Since the old JTAlert AutoIT code does not natively support multicast UDP, a middle-man was coded, JTAlertV2.Manager.exe. This new code replaced the old no-longer-fit-for-purpose plugin system which was also AutoIT coded.

I suspect a permissions issue, or PC protection software interference my be the cause. The config.sqlite file and all the backups of same are created & modified by the main JTAlert process (JTAlert.exe), but the automatic removal of old files is handled by the new JTAlertV2.Manager.exe. Looking at the code, I can't see anything unusual, it is basic stuff, enumerate the files in the config directory, check the last modification date or each file and deleting any that exceed the 7 day threshold.

Either a permissions issue between the two processes, JTAlert.exe and JTAlertV2.Manager.exe or more likely PC protection software preventing the Manager process from deleting files it did not create or modify.

I have added additional debug statements to the cleanup code for the next release. That may shed some light on why this is happening for some users.

de Laurie VK3AMA


locked Re: Worked B4 issue

Joe
 

as noted, they were sent on the 1st.

Joe/WQ6Q


locked Re: Dozens of WSJT-X config files

Jim N6VH
 


On 3/3/2021 12:03 PM, Bob K via groups.io wrote:
Interesting that for at least three of us the files started to accumulate beginning Aug 2020.

Bob, KA2TQV
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In my case, I have one from 2016. The only others (a total of 8, not counting the current one) only go back to Feb 25. I don't know what is different in our setups, but I am not seeing a large number of those files.

73,

Jim N6VH


locked Re: Dozens of WSJT-X config files

Bob, KA2TQV
 

Interesting that for at least three of us the files started to accumulate beginning Aug 2020.

Bob, KA2TQV


locked Re: Dozens of WSJT-X config files

Andrew; KF6LU
 

Found 406 files. As with others, my dates go back to August 22, 2020


locked Re: Dozens of WSJT-X config files

Bob, KA2TQV
 

And I had 529 of them, going back to Aug 2020. So, something is clearly not working according to spec. Some configuration change I can make?

Bob, KA2TQV


locked Re: Dozens of WSJT-X config files

Jim W
 

Same here, oldest was from August 2020. I deleted them on Tuesday, except for the last 5. I went in this morning and there are 12 folders. I deleted all except the last 5.

 

73s

 

Jim

VA3XOV

 

From: Support@HamApps.groups.io <Support@HamApps.groups.io> On Behalf Of Roger M via groups.io
Sent: March 3, 2021 12:11 PM
To: Support@HamApps.groups.io
Subject: Re: [HamApps] Dozens of WSJT-X config files

 

Same here. The oldest file was dated Aug 23, 2020. And I don't have any protection SW that is interfering with anything.

On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 05:08 PM, Tim N3XX wrote:

I deleted a lot of them here also. The oldest dated file was from
August 2020, so I guess something happened around that time that broke
the automatic file deletions.

73,
Tim - N3XX

On 2021-03-02 1:47 PM, Hasan Schiers N0AN wrote:

I just checked that folder here, and there were 175 files in it. Deleted
all but the one cautioned about.
73, N0AN
Hasan


On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 8:37 AM WB5JJJ - George <wb5jjj@...
<mailto:wb5jjj@...
>> wrote:

In checking, I found over 300 files in the folder.  Deleted all but
config.sqlite.

Win10Pro updated
Windows Security (default)

Seems like an error dialog should be displayed if the files can't be
deleted.
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73's
George - WB5JJJ
Hamshack Holine #4969


 
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73,
Roger
AC6BW


locked Re: Dozens of WSJT-X config files

Roger- AC6BW
 

Same here. The oldest file was dated Aug 23, 2020. And I don't have any protection SW that is interfering with anything.


On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 05:08 PM, Tim N3XX wrote:
I deleted a lot of them here also. The oldest dated file was from
August 2020, so I guess something happened around that time that broke
the automatic file deletions.

73,
Tim - N3XX

On 2021-03-02 1:47 PM, Hasan Schiers N0AN wrote:
I just checked that folder here, and there were 175 files in it. Deleted
all but the one cautioned about.
73, N0AN
Hasan


On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 8:37 AM WB5JJJ - George <wb5jjj@...
<mailto:wb5jjj@...>> wrote:

In checking, I found over 300 files in the folder.  Deleted all but
config.sqlite.

Win10Pro updated
Windows Security (default)

Seems like an error dialog should be displayed if the files can't be
deleted.
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73's
George - WB5JJJ
Hamshack Holine #4969


 
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73,
Roger
AC6BW


locked Re: Start problem Subscript used on non-accessible variable

Frank IZ7AUH
 

No opportunity to resolve? 


locked JTAlert makes PC slow

K0GU
 
Edited

I've been working on this a lot tonight, reading old posts, etc and I don't quite get it.

I'm running three instances of JTDX rc-155 (153 before that, etc). With each instance of JTAlert I start the typing into the PC gets slower and I think my FT8 decodes get slower. If I have only one instance of JTAlert running I can type character into W10 Notepad fairly smoothly but by the time I'm running three instances of JTAlert typing gets about five seconds behind. I first noticed this when typing messages into the Text Message Window.

I have some delay in my SDR/SDR program so I always use AutoSeq3 so I can have late decoding. But the delay has gotten pretty bad and is running two or more seconds into the xmit sequence. I have a fast computer and the load with three instances of JTDX/JTAlert only uses about 30% of the CPU and 50% if I turn SWL mode on to all JTDXs (I'm listening to dead bands ATM 6m &10m). So to me it doesn't seem to be a resource issue.    

I'm guessing I don't have something setup quite right when it comes to JTDX/JTAlert communication and that is causing the delay??? Can someone post what my settings should look like please (or a link)??? All three instances are working (displaying calls properly). BTW I have no logging program hooked up at all. I'm just using the stand along features in JTDX.

Doctor my brain hurts - (Monty Python)

73,  Jay  K0GU


locked Re: Dozens of WSJT-X config files

Tim N3XX
 

I deleted a lot of them here also. The oldest dated file was from August 2020, so I guess something happened around that time that broke the automatic file deletions.

73,
Tim - N3XX

On 2021-03-02 1:47 PM, Hasan Schiers N0AN wrote:
I just checked that folder here, and there were 175 files in it. Deleted all but the one cautioned about.
73, N0AN
Hasan
On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 8:37 AM WB5JJJ - George <wb5jjj@gmail.com <mailto:wb5jjj@gmail.com>> wrote:
In checking, I found over 300 files in the folder.  Deleted all but
config.sqlite.
Win10Pro updated
Windows Security (default)
Seems like an error dialog should be displayed if the files can't be
deleted.
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73's
George - WB5JJJ
Hamshack Holine #4969


locked Re: Dozens of WSJT-X config files

Joe Subich, W4TV
 

I had some 40 files accumulated in the two weeks since I've been
back on the air (finally got an antenna up). Deleted all except
config.sqlite and the last three days of dated back-ups.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 2021-03-02 1:47 PM, Hasan Schiers N0AN wrote:
I just checked that folder here, and there were 175 files in it. Deleted all but the one cautioned about.
73, N0AN
Hasan
On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 8:37 AM WB5JJJ - George <wb5jjj@gmail.com <mailto:wb5jjj@gmail.com>> wrote:
In checking, I found over 300 files in the folder.  Deleted all but
config.sqlite.
Win10Pro updated
Windows Security (default)
Seems like an error dialog should be displayed if the files can't be
deleted.
--
73's
George - WB5JJJ
Hamshack Holine #4969


locked Re: Dozens of WSJT-X config files

Hasan Schiers N0AN
 

I just checked that folder here, and there were 175 files in it. Deleted all but the one cautioned about.
73, N0AN
Hasan


On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 8:37 AM WB5JJJ - George <wb5jjj@...> wrote:
In checking, I found over 300 files in the folder.  Deleted all but config.sqlite.  

Win10Pro updated
Windows Security (default)

Seems like an error dialog should be displayed if the files can't be deleted.  
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73's
George - WB5JJJ
Hamshack Holine #4969


locked Re: Dozens of WSJT-X config files

WB5JJJ - George
 

In checking, I found over 300 files in the folder.  Deleted all but config.sqlite.  

Win10Pro updated
Windows Security (default)

Seems like an error dialog should be displayed if the files can't be deleted.  
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73's
George - WB5JJJ
Hamshack Holine #4969

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