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locked JTAlert question

Fred Tollin
 

How do I make the stations that are calling me red? That is, in the alert box?


locked Re: sound card error message

TomK
 

For what it's worth, let me add a little detail for the sake of clarity.
The main issue discussed is affected by the method used to convey 2-way
digital audio between the radio and the PC.
There are 3 typical methods for a digital comm audio setup that come to
mind:

1. Bare bones direct audio connection:
Rig's audio I/O is passed to the PC via some type of simple audio
junction box directly into the PC's basic audio system.
This is problematic since the digital audio stream is directly mixed
with the PC's audio. Hence the obvious conflict.
However, in Windows, at least, local PC apps can be controlled
separately with volume slides to effectively mute them
This is effective but can be a tad tedious to mute all other apps during
rig use then to unmute them thereafter.

2. USB Digital Comm Adapters:
This method avoids audio path conflicts by conveying the rig audio I/O
over a separate USB connection path.
The USB digital comm rig adapter box provides a USB channel that appears
in the PC's device list as a separate device.
This avoids audio mixing issues by setting the AR digital apps to use
the USB device, rather than a PC audio device.
Using WSJT, e.g., it's RADIO settings tab allows selection of the USB
devices for its digital audio I/O.

3. Built-in USB interface in later model rigs like the ic7610, et al.
This is the same architecture as case #2 but with greater simplicity and
less complication.
Its setup and use are identical to case #2.

If case #1 is the one being discussed, then, indeed, a cheap outboard USB
device "might" help.
To fully support the need at hand, as with cases #2-#3, the USB adapter
needs to support 2-way audio.
That is, it needs to provide both Mic and Speaker types of devices to the
PC.
I am not familiar with how many of such adapters allow that.

Hope that helps.
TomK / KT1TK / 73

-----Original Message-----
From: Support@HamApps.groups.io <Support@HamApps.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim
Cooper
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 8:58 PM
To: Tom WA9WSJ via groups.io <wa9wsj=yahoo.com@groups.io>;
Support@HamApps.groups.io
Subject: Re: [HamApps] sound card error message

On 20 Sep 2020 at 23:58, Tom WA9WSJ via groups.io
wrote:

I only have one sound card in my computer
That means you must be using that card for your audio for WSJT-X as well ...
NOT GOOD! That means that any windoze system sounds are being sent over the
air along with your digital sounds.

Why don't you invest a whopping $5 or so and get a USB plug in sound device
to use for your digital work?

w2jc


locked Re: 7300 receive ant mod

J Murray
 

oops I thought that's where I was.  Thanks


locked Re: Keyboard latency with multiple JTAlert processes running.

Patrick Skerrett
 

I should add that I tested both with a unique UDP port per WSJT-X bound to 127.0.0.1 per instance, and also attempted with all WSJT-X instances configured for multicast using the same port. Both configurations were functional, but both had the extreme latency after about 4 running instances. 

W9PDS


locked Keyboard latency with multiple JTAlert processes running.

Patrick Skerrett
 

Hey folks,

Sorry I'm sure this is an edge case, but I am a Flexradio user and I typically operate WSJT-X with at least 4 bands running simultaneously. I will feed each slice of the Flex to a different WSJT-X process, and then I will run an equal number of JTAlert instances, each capturing the UDP stream of the individual WSJT-X process.

I have noticed that as I add more JTAlert instances, my Keyboard latency will decrease linearly. By the time I have reached 4 processes, the latency is to the point where typing is very difficult. 

My system is not taxed at all with all these programs running, I have a 12-core 4.0Ghz processor, and 32GB ram with a very fast GPU, and NVME storage. CPU usage while decoding 4 bands is 10- 20% & memory consumption is about 50%. 

I have tried debugging for most of the day, and can confirm that the latency only happens with multiple JTalert instances running. I do not feel any keyboard sluggishness when I add more WSJT-x or Flexradio slices. 


Has anyone encountered this before? 

I am running version 2.16.13 of jtalert, 2.2.2 of WSJT-x and 15.8.0 of Dxkeeper. 

Attached are some screenshots of my setup + a view of my system utilization when this is all running.

Thanks. 



W9PDS






locked Re: 7300 receive ant mod

Dave Garber
 

i would check with a icom 7300 group

Dave Garber
VE3WEJ / VE3IE


On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 3:42 PM J Murray via groups.io <adkmurray=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Going to install the receive ant mod on my 7300.  Anyone have a mod for the mod:)  to be able to just switch from rx ant to tx ant. rec?  Thanks


locked 7300 receive ant mod

J Murray
 

Going to install the receive ant mod on my 7300.  Anyone have a mod for the mod:)  to be able to just switch from rx ant to tx ant. rec?  Thanks


locked settings - JT-Alert

dbushinsky
 

In Settings when I click on a tab the program pauses and then resumes where it was before.  I can not change any settings or rebuild the log.  It was previously working well.  I have reinstalled the program. 

My computer will not allow me to install a newer version of JTAlert - it says I do not have permission to run the program.

thank you - 73 - David W2PD


locked Re: Click on spots

Neil <n4fn.neil@...>
 

Thanks Laurie,
It had been working and somehow Windoze decided to uncheck the boxes when it did a recent update. MS thinks they are smarter than the users and think it knows what is best for us.
I appreciate and use ur program
73 and stay well.....Neil   N4FN


locked Re: sound card error message

TomK
 

Laurie made a good point re use of VB-Audio’s “Virtual Cable” products.

There’s also the Windows Advanced Sound Settings panel that might help you (see further down)

 

VB Audio’s Virtual Cables

VB Audio’s Virtual Audio Cable  “acts” like a real audio cable connecting input and output devices.

Like a like real-world physical patch cable, applications can send their audio to and get audio input from them.

Just like plugging a physical patch cable from one physical device to another.

 

The advantage of a Virtual Cable is that you can separately route and control an app’s audio.

The details of this are too lengthy to take up this group’s time on it.

There is a VB-Audio manual on it and there are several YouTube videos that attempt to explain it.

 

They offer 3 different virtual cables.

  1. 2 virtual routes (A & B)
  2. 2 virtual routes (C & D)
  3. A special Hi-Fi cable for audiophile needing to patch 8 channel surround sound.

 

Option 1 (A & B) is all you should need if you are a masochist and want to try it <laugh>.

 

Beware: VB-Audio also makes a full-blown virtual mixing console called Voicemeeter.

It is fairly very complex and comes in 3 versions with an increasing number of channels.

They all are very capable but extremely complex for those not into advanced mixing concepts.

I’m an audio pro and use it for my audio productions but still scratch my head over their configurations.

 

Windows 10 Advanced Sound Settings

Windows 10, over its last several upgrades, has added an Advanced Sound Settings panel.

It allows you to specific default Input and Output routes for Windows as well as specific ones for each running application.

This can obviate the need for the Virtual Cable.

E.g., you can specify the Input & Output routing for each running app, separately from the default.

You get the panel via Sound Settings > Advanced Settings.

It would have eliminated my need for Virtual Cables had I not had advanced mixing needs.

 

Good luck on your quest.

TomK  / KT1TK / 73

 

 

From: Support@HamApps.groups.io <Support@HamApps.groups.io> On Behalf Of Laurie, VK3AMA
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 8:25 PM
To: Support@HamApps.groups.io
Subject: Re: [HamApps] sound card error message

 

 

On 21/09/2020 10:16 am, Laurie, VK3AMA wrote:

See my response here https://hamapps.groups.io/g/Support/message/26856


I have used the free VB-Audio cable software in this situation, its free and quick to setup. https://www.vb-audio.com/Cable/

de Laurie VK3AMA


locked Re: JTAlert doesn't read log.

José L. Oliva - EA4ZQ
 

Well, I erased all configuration, desinstall jtalert, upgrade new version et voila...


locked JTAlert doesn't read log.

José L. Oliva - EA4ZQ
 

Hello group.

I have all my log into WSJT-X and it marks new dxcc, new cq zone, etc.. with no problem.
When I start JTAlert, it marks all stations decoded as 'Wanted DXCC' because it´s the first line in 'Alert Priorities'
Tried to 'Scan Log and Rebuild' but it seems no qso read.
I don't know if line with wsjt-x log address in red colour is right or not.

Any idea? Thanks 73&DX  Pepe EA4ZQ


locked Re: sound card error message

Tom WA9WSJ
 

Hi Jim,

I fully understand the issue with it going over the air. My intention is to not use another sound device. I tried one once as you suggested and I had to many windoz problems with it so I took it off. After that I kept getting the errors because win then defaulted to the other stock sound card which I could not unselect, which lead to this email.

But with Lauries suggestion, I was able to select another virtual sound device and that stopped the errors.

Thanks for your help.

Tom

On Sunday, September 20, 2020, 06:58:15 PM MDT, Jim Cooper <jtalert@...> wrote:


On 20 Sep 2020 at 23:58, Tom WA9WSJ via groups.io

wrote:

> I only have one sound card in my computer


That means you must be using that card for your
audio for WSJT-X as well ...  NOT GOOD!  That
means that any windoze system sounds are being
sent over the air along with your digital sounds.

Why don't you invest a whopping $5 or so and get
a USB plug in sound device to use for your digital
work? 

w2jc







locked Re: sound card error message

Tom WA9WSJ
 

Thanks Laurie!!!

Sorry for my memory lapse :(

Don't know why I didn't try it before.

Your suggestion has worked, no errors!

Thank you  Laurie.

Tom

On Sunday, September 20, 2020, 06:16:46 PM MDT, Laurie, VK3AMA <hamapps.support@...> wrote:



On 21/09/2020 9:58 am, Tom WA9WSJ via groups.io wrote:
> I only have one sound card in my computer and I'm not using the
> programs alerts sounds but I keep getting an error message that one
> sound card is designated for both uses and that all alerts have been
> stopped.
>
> I've looked at the "sound" selection in jtalert to try to unpick my
> computer card but it's the only selection in the drop down window. No
> other option is there.
>
> What can I do to unpick it so it will stop the error message?
>
> I've looked in the help files but there's either nothing there or I've
> missed it.
>
> thanks!
>
>
> Tom


You previously asked this same question back in December 2019.

See my response here https://hamapps.groups.io/g/Support/message/26856

de Laurie VK3AMA







locked Re: sound card error message

Jim Cooper
 

On 20 Sep 2020 at 23:58, Tom WA9WSJ via groups.io
wrote:

I only have one sound card in my computer
That means you must be using that card for your
audio for WSJT-X as well ... NOT GOOD! That
means that any windoze system sounds are being
sent over the air along with your digital sounds.

Why don't you invest a whopping $5 or so and get
a USB plug in sound device to use for your digital
work?

w2jc


locked Re: sound card error message

Laurie, VK3AMA
 



On 21/09/2020 10:16 am, Laurie, VK3AMA wrote:
See my response here https://hamapps.groups.io/g/Support/message/26856

I have used the free VB-Audio cable software in this situation, its free and quick to setup. https://www.vb-audio.com/Cable/

de Laurie VK3AMA


locked Re: sound card error message

Laurie, VK3AMA
 

On 21/09/2020 9:58 am, Tom WA9WSJ via groups.io wrote:
I only have one sound card in my computer and I'm not using the programs alerts sounds but I keep getting an error message that one sound card is designated for both uses and that all alerts have been stopped.

I've looked at the "sound" selection in jtalert to try to unpick my computer card but it's the only selection in the drop down window. No other option is there.

What can I do to unpick it so it will stop the error message?

I've looked in the help files but there's either nothing there or I've missed it.

thanks!


Tom
You previously asked this same question back in December 2019.

See my response here https://hamapps.groups.io/g/Support/message/26856

de Laurie VK3AMA


locked sound card error message

Tom WA9WSJ
 

Hello Gents,

I only have one sound card in my computer and I'm not using the programs alerts sounds but I keep getting an error message that one sound card is designated for both uses and that all alerts have been stopped.

I've looked at the "sound" selection in jtalert to try to unpick my computer card but it's the only selection in the drop down window. No other option is there.

What can I do to unpick it so it will stop the error message?

I've looked in the help files but there's either nothing there or I've missed it.

thanks!


Tom


locked Re: System monitor tray icon

TomK
 

   “I found exactly what I was looking for in a freeware program called ‘MemInfo’.”

 

Thanks for sharing the memory loading system-tray utility you found.

Seems like it might be of interest to some users. I’ll check it out as well.

KT1TK TomK 73

 

From: Support@HamApps.groups.io <Support@HamApps.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike N8FRI
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 7:42 AM
To: Support@HamApps.groups.io
Subject: Re: [HamApps] System monitor tray icon

 

Task manager is fine but takes a few mouse clicks to get to the usage information.  I found exactly what I was looking for in a freeware program called "MemInfo".
I want to be able to right click a tray icon and be able to see all present programs running and the memory utilized by each.  It also features a bar graph with total memory percentage being used.  Very nice for a quick check while running JTDX/JTAlert.
Thanks, Mike N8FRI


locked Re: System monitor tray icon

Mike N8FRI
 

Task manager is fine but takes a few mouse clicks to get to the usage information.  I found exactly what I was looking for in a freeware program called "MemInfo".
I want to be able to right click a tray icon and be able to see all present programs running and the memory utilized by each.  It also features a bar graph with total memory percentage being used.  Very nice for a quick check while running JTDX/JTAlert.
Thanks, Mike N8FRI

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