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locked Re: Decoding Irregularities

Craig
 

Thanks Tom for the guidance.  I made the change and will see what happens.  I did notice from the WSJT-X logfile that the FT4 frequency changed from 14.080 after the initial contact to 14.074 but everything is still noted as FT4.  That shows the decoding issue and reason, but not the cause.

Thank you again Tom..

73's  Craig

On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 10:52 AM Tom Job <ve3ii@...> wrote:
I had the same issue with WSJT-X "skipping" decode cycles.  Very frustrating!!  Through their forum, I found a workaround that seems to fix it.  Just change the priority of WSJT-X to Realtime instead of the default Normal setting.

Right click on the taskbar and select Task Master. Select the Details tab and scroll down the list to WSJT-X.exe.  Right click on it and select Select Priorty and from the selections, choose Realtime.  Confirm it with the Change Priorty pop-up.

One issue is that you have to do this each time you start WSJT-X, even on a reboot.  It may put a wee stress on your CPU but not a whole lot and only for a second or two, depending on your CPU.  My shack laptop is old but it handles it fine.

I hope that helps.... it works for me with Windows 8.1 and a mighty 1.4GHz CPU :P

73, Tom VE3II


locked Re: Decoding Irregularities

Tom Job
 

I had the same issue with WSJT-X "skipping" decode cycles.  Very frustrating!!  Through their forum, I found a workaround that seems to fix it.  Just change the priority of WSJT-X to Realtime instead of the default Normal setting.

Right click on the taskbar and select Task Master. Select the Details tab and scroll down the list to WSJT-X.exe.  Right click on it and select Select Priorty and from the selections, choose Realtime.  Confirm it with the Change Priorty pop-up.

One issue is that you have to do this each time you start WSJT-X, even on a reboot.  It may put a wee stress on your CPU but not a whole lot and only for a second or two, depending on your CPU.  My shack laptop is old but it handles it fine.

I hope that helps.... it works for me with Windows 8.1 and a mighty 1.4GHz CPU :P

73, Tom VE3II


Re: Spam from K2G

WB5JJJ - George
 

Laurie

Just sent you information via the Support email. 
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73's
George - WB5JJJ


Re: Spam from K2G

scot
 

All,

very interesting that someone would do this to a SES that has been in operation for multiple years. My hope is that there is someone within that group that operated K2G that would educate him. Knowing this, I will not bother to work him in future years. It is not a good appearance for those that put on the special event either.

Scott
N2SAB


locked Re: Decoding Irregularities

Craig
 

Thanks Bill - I have contacted WSJT-X Support.  C

On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 9:31 AM g4wjs <bill.8@...> wrote:
On 07/07/2020 14:23, Craig wrote:
> Using WSJT-X V2.2.2 and JTAlert v2.16.8  Half of the time WSJT-X RX
> Frequency decoding misses TX-3 / TX-4 / TX-5 sequences.  I have lost
> numerous QSO's not seeing the conclusion of the exchange sequence. No
> difference if I am observing another station exchanges, or my own. 
> Seems to be more frequent when Hold TX Freq is used, but guessing a
> bit here.  I think that the problem started when the WSJT-X decoding
> timing supposedly improved with v2.2.1
>
> I have uninstalled and re-loaded WSJT-X and JTAlert,  Problem continues.
>
> Is anyone seeing this?

Hi Craig,

it seems you are reporting a WSJT-X issue, WSJT-X has its own support
list (https://wsjtx.groups.io/g/main).

Please provide an extract from your WSJT-X ALL.TXT file
("Menu->File->Open log directory") that covers one of these "failed" QSOs?

73
Bill
G4WJS.



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73
Bill
G4WJS.




Re: Spam from K2G

WB5JJJ - George
 

I was first keyed into his operation when I got a JTA F5 message to operate split (which I always do) a couple of days ago during the 13Col.  When I responded that I was, he said that it was not intended for me, but had a "glitch" in his macro and it was sent to all stations at once. 

Yes, he is in fact using a macro he wrote to send out hundreds of messages to all those that he has copied.  He initiated a JTA F5 chat about this and he even has a video on how he does it.  He's a younger guy and a software developer.  He also said that lots of hams don't like his methods, but it works for him. 

If it happens again, then I'll just block his callsign in JTA and not worry about the "spam".  Maybe Laurie could add something to the hamspots website to prevent this in the future. 
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73's
George - WB5JJJ


locked Re: Decoding Irregularities

g4wjs
 

On 07/07/2020 14:23, Craig wrote:
Using WSJT-X V2.2.2 and JTAlert v2.16.8  Half of the time WSJT-X RX Frequency decoding misses TX-3 / TX-4 / TX-5 sequences.  I have lost numerous QSO's not seeing the conclusion of the exchange sequence. No difference if I am observing another station exchanges, or my own.  Seems to be more frequent when Hold TX Freq is used, but guessing a bit here.  I think that the problem started when the WSJT-X decoding timing supposedly improved with v2.2.1

I have uninstalled and re-loaded WSJT-X and JTAlert,  Problem continues.

Is anyone seeing this?
Hi Craig,

it seems you are reporting a WSJT-X issue, WSJT-X has its own support list (https://wsjtx.groups.io/g/main).

Please provide an extract from your WSJT-X ALL.TXT file ("Menu->File->Open log directory") that covers one of these "failed" QSOs?

73
Bill
G4WJS.



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73
Bill
G4WJS.


locked Decoding Irregularities

Craig
 

Using WSJT-X V2.2.2 and JTAlert v2.16.8  Half of the time WSJT-X RX Frequency decoding misses TX-3 / TX-4 / TX-5 sequences.  I have lost numerous QSO's not seeing the conclusion of the exchange sequence. No difference if I am observing another station exchanges, or my own.  Seems to be more frequent when Hold TX Freq is used, but guessing a bit here.  I think that the problem started when the WSJT-X decoding timing supposedly improved with v2.2.1

I have uninstalled and re-loaded WSJT-X and JTAlert,  Problem continues. 

Is anyone seeing this?


Re: Spam from K2G

wo4o RiC
 

You can ID the person who secured K2G for that particular date by looking online and performing a search at:

http://www.1x1callsigns.org/

73 de RiC wo4o
Grand Island FL


Re: Spam from K2G

Gerald Klotz
 

I got one while I was offline and it came through when I went back online. He was doing the 13 colonies contest and was also on the Warc bands. He had several stations going at a time. At one time I saw him calling 6 stations and he kept calling. Which kept causing my software to stop sending to the station I was calling.


Gerry Klotz

On Jul 6, 2020, at 11:16 PM, Rob Neff via groups.io <rob=idahoparanormal.com@groups.io> wrote:

Anyone else get spammed by K2G asking people to QSY to some freq and mode out of the blue? My wife did today. The PC and radio was on but no one was home, and she was still running JTALERT. We came home to find whomever it was had sent a generic message via JTALERT.

When asked about spam she was told “I have received hundreds of messages thanking me for letting them know and inviting them”.

So the question then becomes, did someone send hundreds of JTALERT messages one at a time or has someone figured out a way to spam a large number of people at the same time?

It’s one thing to have someone see you on PSKREPORTER and send you a message if you’re online and need the contact, but this was a bit more than that.

Rob KW2E



locked Re: Wanted Call needs to ignore Filters

Mike - W1MI
 

On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 01:19 AM, HamApps Support (VK3AMA) wrote:
Excluding the Wanted Call Alert from obeying any of the Alert Filters set is on the TODO list, but I don't know when that will be implemented, sorry.

Just chiming in to say I think that would be a useful feature also.
73, Mike - W1MI


locked Re: Not logging some QSOs to DXKeeper. #DXLAB

g4wjs
 

On 07/07/2020 03:19, HamApps Support (VK3AMA) wrote:
On 7/07/2020 11:05 am, g4wjs wrote:
Maybe if a logging event takes an extended time, due to Internet actions on my very poor shack WiFi connection, the next QSO logged could cause JTAlert to start a new connection while DXKeeper was still finishing its end of the last connection.

Bill,

With the current code, it is not possible to initiate a second logging event when the first hasn't completed or timed-out.

The code is synchronous, with no async callbacks. Once JTAlert has entered the logging/confirmation code (a single method), everything blocks until that method is left. There are two possible exit paths from the logging method (success or failure) and both perform a
TCPCloseSocket operation.

de Laurie VK3AMA

Hi Laurie,

I understand that but just because you have called TCPCloseSocket doesn't mean that the DXKeeper TCP/IP server has finished and closed its end of the connection. Do you get a reply from DXKeeper to your logging request, if not then there's no way of knowing that DXKeeper has finished with the request.

This all depends on the implementation at the DXKeeper end, there are many options for implementing a socket server, you can only accept one request at a time and let new requests get buffered in the network, you can use one thread per request and handle them concurrently, you can use a thread pool and handle up to a certain number of requests concurrently, or you can use select() and handle requests in parallel as data arrives in a single thread. I believe VB6 that DXKeeper is implemented with uses the select() approach and fires a DataArrival event when traffic arrives, one has to be careful to handle that data understanding which accepted socket it arrives on, and that other requests may be in progress concurrently,


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73
Bill
G4WJS.


locked Re: JTAlertV2.Manager will not start

neil_zampella
 

John,

accept the installer defaults ... it will put it in the correct location expected.

 

Neil, KN3ILZ


On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 11:23 PM, John wrote:

QSL, will do
What is the best place to install it? In it's own directory or in Program Files(x86)?

Thanks
John


locked Re: s in green dot

g4wjs
 

On 07/07/2020 02:10, richard clare wrote:
What does the s in the green dot/no dot signify? Richard wb6ewm
Hi Richard,

not really anything to do with JTAlert, WSJT-X has its own support forum on Groups.io (https://wsjtx.groups.io/g/main).

The dot being green indicates that WSJT-X has working CAT control of your rig, the 'S' indicates that you have selected one of the "Settings->Radio->Split Operating" options. So you are seeing that all is OK withCAT control of your rig.



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73
Bill
G4WJS.


Re: Spam from K2G

Michael Aust
 

Laurie

Suspect K2G automated their WSJT FT8
as a Robot Station with a automated Macro script in the way
they responded to contacts in this event

Oh well !

73
MA

-----Original Message-----
From: HamApps Support (VK3AMA) <vk3ama.ham.apps@...>
To: Support@HamApps.groups.io
Sent: Mon, Jul 6, 2020 10:54 pm
Subject: Re: [HamApps] Spam from K2G

On 7/07/2020 2:35 pm, Michael Black via groups.io wrote:
Yes...they are spamming everybody.  I've received several of these.

Mike W9MDB

Does anyone know who the op is running K2G?

Unfortunately,  due to the log file size, I don't record the Text Message traffic hitting the Server. Only exceptions like timeouts & premature socket closed events are recorded. However, I can see the Text Message files stored on the Server that haven't been collected by the targeted Callsign and there are enough of them to draw some conclusions.
  • The Spamming occurred over a ~2 hour period. With no further messages received in the last 5 hours.

  • One message sent precisely every second indicating automation, not a manual-initiated messaging.
     
  • I was seeing multiple messages sent to the same Calling often 5 or 10 minutes apart.

  • Messages were sent either from JTAlert that was automated by a Macro type program or a script mimicking the JTAlert behavior.

  • A script would have required an initial sniffing of the. local network to determine who the messages are sent and the Handshaking involved.

  • Uncollected messages from that ~2hour period numbered 3000. Clearly this spamming numbered in the many thousands.
I have identified the originating IP address and blocked it on the Server firewall. That only keeps the honest people out. If the abuser is smart enough to automate this attack, they are smart enough to use a VPN or proxy server so they can change their public IP at will.

I suspect that the operator at K2G is monitoring this group. When I first started composing this email, they were on-line for Text Message receipt. Now that I have finished composing the email, they have gone off-line as I was about to send a nasty message.
de Laurie VK3AMA


Re: Spam from K2G

JTAlert Support (VK3AMA)
 

On 7/07/2020 3:54 pm, HamApps Support (VK3AMA) via groups.io wrote:

I suspect that the operator at K2G is monitoring this group. When I first started composing this email, they were on-line for Text Message receipt. Now that I have finished composing the email, they have gone off-line as I was about to send a nasty message.

Disregard the above. Of course he went off-line, I had already blocked his IP at the Server so his status wasn't getting updated as he could no longer sign in to check for messages.

de Laurie VK3AMA


Re: Spam from K2G

JTAlert Support (VK3AMA)
 

On 7/07/2020 2:35 pm, Michael Black via groups.io wrote:
Yes...they are spamming everybody.  I've received several of these.

Mike W9MDB

Does anyone know who the op is running K2G?

Unfortunately,  due to the log file size, I don't record the Text Message traffic hitting the Server. Only exceptions like timeouts & premature socket closed events are recorded. However, I can see the Text Message files stored on the Server that haven't been collected by the targeted Callsign and there are enough of them to draw some conclusions.
  • The Spamming occurred over a ~2 hour period. With no further messages received in the last 5 hours.

  • One message sent precisely every second indicating automation, not a manual-initiated messaging.
     
  • I was seeing multiple messages sent to the same Calling often 5 or 10 minutes apart.

  • Messages were sent either from JTAlert that was automated by a Macro type program or a script mimicking the JTAlert behavior.

  • A script would have required an initial sniffing of the. local network to determine who the messages are sent and the Handshaking involved.

  • Uncollected messages from that ~2hour period numbered 3000. Clearly this spamming numbered in the many thousands.

I have identified the originating IP address and blocked it on the Server firewall. That only keeps the honest people out. If the abuser is smart enough to automate this attack, they are smart enough to use a VPN or proxy server so they can change their public IP at will.


I suspect that the operator at K2G is monitoring this group. When I first started composing this email, they were on-line for Text Message receipt. Now that I have finished composing the email, they have gone off-line as I was about to send a nasty message.

de Laurie VK3AMA


Re: Spam from K2G

Michael Aust
 

Mike and Rob,

  From my experience, it would not be 
Too hard to do this with a Script File and 
or a Macro Builder to take to do this

   In Engineering, we had to do things 
when we had to get one program to talk
to another program

   Guess the Spammer knows a few things
that most hams do not know about these
days

73
Mike
WB6DJI 

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On Monday, July 6, 2020, Michael Black via groups.io <mdblack98@...> wrote:

Yes...they are spamming everybody.  I've received several of these.



Mike W9MDB




On Monday, July 6, 2020, 11:16:24 PM CDT, Rob Neff via groups.io <rob@...> wrote:


Anyone else get spammed by K2G asking people to QSY to some freq and mode out of the blue? My wife did today. The PC and radio was on but no one was home, and she was still running JTALERT. We came home to find whomever it was had sent a generic message via JTALERT.

When asked about spam she was told “I have received hundreds of messages thanking me for letting them know and inviting them”.

So the question then becomes, did someone send hundreds of JTALERT messages one at a time or has someone figured out a way to spam a large number of people at the same time?

It’s one thing to have someone see you on PSKREPORTER and send you a message if you’re online and need the contact, but this was a bit more than that.

Rob KW2E



Re: Spam from K2G

Michael Black
 

Yes...they are spamming everybody.  I've received several of these.



Mike W9MDB




On Monday, July 6, 2020, 11:16:24 PM CDT, Rob Neff via groups.io <rob@...> wrote:


Anyone else get spammed by K2G asking people to QSY to some freq and mode out of the blue? My wife did today. The PC and radio was on but no one was home, and she was still running JTALERT. We came home to find whomever it was had sent a generic message via JTALERT.

When asked about spam she was told “I have received hundreds of messages thanking me for letting them know and inviting them”.

So the question then becomes, did someone send hundreds of JTALERT messages one at a time or has someone figured out a way to spam a large number of people at the same time?

It’s one thing to have someone see you on PSKREPORTER and send you a message if you’re online and need the contact, but this was a bit more than that.

Rob KW2E



Spam from K2G

Rob Neff <rob@...>
 

Anyone else get spammed by K2G asking people to QSY to some freq and mode out of the blue? My wife did today. The PC and radio was on but no one was home, and she was still running JTALERT. We came home to find whomever it was had sent a generic message via JTALERT.

When asked about spam she was told “I have received hundreds of messages thanking me for letting them know and inviting them”.

So the question then becomes, did someone send hundreds of JTALERT messages one at a time or has someone figured out a way to spam a large number of people at the same time?

It’s one thing to have someone see you on PSKREPORTER and send you a message if you’re online and need the contact, but this was a bit more than that.

Rob KW2E

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