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locked Re: How to configure using WSJT-X ADIF file as worked before file

E <erisi@...>
 

OK, in settings, what should I have checked off? (If I check "Enable Standard ADIF file", then run "SCAN(ALL)" nothing is found so I have no idea what file is being scanned.)

Thanks for your help!

Gene

On 1/24/2019 8:10 PM, HamApps Support (VK3AMA) wrote:
On 25/01/2019 8:41 am, E wrote:
How exactly do I configure JTAlert to use WSJT-X's ADIF file, or my online LoTW data, as the basis for the worked B4 database?

Thank you!

Gene Risi
JTAlert cannot utilise the WSJT-X ADIF file directly. This is a deliberate design decision to prevent WSJT-X and JTAlert logging the same QSO twice. JTAlert cannot use you online LoTW data directly.

If you want to use WSJT-X or LoTW adif data for B4 checks only, then you will need to import that data into the JTAlert Worked B4 log. This is available when JTAlert is set to not use one of the supported loggers ("No Log" is shown in the JTAlert title-bar).

If your using JTAlert with a supported Logger, than the above mentioned Worked B4 log is NOT USED and is ignored, all B4 checks are done against your Logger log file.

de Laurie VK3AMA


locked Re: JTAlertX 2.12.10

Tim Davis KJ4DHF
 

Laurie,

Yes my internet is at a snail pace here. It is dial-up. I have never noticed it before but, I was paying attention to everything as I had just setup a new digital station. It seems it has been working all day just fine today.

Thanks
Tim


locked Re: PC changes to speed up JTAlert

Ed
 

Laurie,

Thank you for the quick reply and detailed explanation of how the program operates. I'll have to come up with another reason to build a new PC Hi Hi.

I'm amazed at how well you support JTAlert. Words fail me. Thank you.

Ed W2GHD


locked Re: How to configure using WSJT-X ADIF file as worked before file

HamApps Support (VK3AMA)
 

On 25/01/2019 8:41 am, E wrote:
How exactly do I configure JTAlert to use WSJT-X's ADIF file, or my online LoTW data, as the basis for the worked B4 database?

Thank you!

Gene Risi
JTAlert cannot utilise the WSJT-X ADIF file directly. This is a deliberate design decision to prevent WSJT-X and JTAlert logging the same QSO twice. JTAlert cannot use you online LoTW data directly.

If you want to use WSJT-X or LoTW adif data for B4 checks only, then you will need to import that data into the JTAlert Worked B4 log. This is available when JTAlert is set to not use one of the supported loggers ("No Log" is shown in the JTAlert title-bar).

If your using JTAlert with a supported Logger, than the above mentioned Worked B4 log is NOT USED and is ignored, all B4 checks are done against your Logger log file.

de Laurie VK3AMA


locked Re: NULL Country for TO7D

HamApps Support (VK3AMA)
 

On 24/01/2019 11:24 am, Jim Reisert AD1C wrote:
On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 4:43 PM Jim Reisert AD1C wrote:

There is something wrong with my software.  TO7D should have been
added to the country file(s) on January 14, but it was not:
I found the problem!  My data file had some unwanted blank space
characters in it.  The software was checking for those, and writing
the errors to a log file, but nothing looked for errors in that log
file!  I moved the check somewhere else where any such problem will
cause an obvious failure very early on, that must be dealt with
(fixed) before continuing.

I'll be releasing a new country file in the next day or so.

-- Jim Reisert AD1C
Jim,

Thanks for the update.

de Laurie VK3AMA


locked Re: PC changes to speed up JTAlert

HamApps Support (VK3AMA)
 

On 25/01/2019 8:26 am, Ed wrote:
Yes,  I'm talking time delays once the program is loaded and running. It's not that I'm having such a terrible time but I am a little slow on the trigger. Even a few seconds saved by a decrease in the time WSJT-X takes to decode and pass information to JTAlert and display of calls received would help my not so nimble anymore fingers to reply to a QSL. But perhaps there's little to gain compared to a second of response time. If so I've learned something and saved $$$ on an unnecessary hardware upgrades.

Thank you both for responding. 73,

Ed
Ed.

It is very unlikely you will get response times down to less than the 2 seconds available at the end of a FT8 period, unless your only decoding one or two stations. You need to utilise the time of the next period in which to set your self up to call a wanted station, thats plenty of time.

People need to stop trying to work FT8 like the old JT65 days where there was plenty of time to decide which station to work and set WSJT-X up (~ 10 seconds) before the start of your TX. A new operating style needs to be developed, where JTAlert alerts you to needed stations, you find the decode and set your self up ready to call them at the next available period. No different from seeing some wanted DX on the Cluster, you go off and find the station, and if he is workable, find a clear spot and call them when they are next listening.

de Laurie VK3AMA



locked Re: PC changes to speed up JTAlert

HamApps Support (VK3AMA)
 

On 25/01/2019 5:00 am, m_scot_alex wrote:
One thing that I have noticed is that my friends that use WSJT-X and JT Alert have experienced differences in performance based on which security suite they're using. One friend had to go to great length to get NAV to "trust" everything that WSJT-X / JT Alert interacted with because of very high CPU utilization on every decode cycle and ultimately reduced a visible slow-down to virtually nothing.

73,

Mike - N8MSA
Virus/Malware security applications have been problematic. When things start misbehaving and WSJT-X/JTAlert have not been changed the usual cause is Virus/Malware protection software interference. Protection software is continually being updated, typically multiple times per day for the better software. When WSJT-X/JTAlert operation starts to misbehave and WSJT-X/JTAlert have remained unchanged, look to the Protection software first rather than uninstalling and reinstalling WSJT-X/JTAlert as some users tend to do blaming the unchanged software first.

Win10 users also have the problem that applications start to misbehave, not just WSJT-X/JTAlert, for no apparent reason. A quick restart of Windows is the usual fix, especially if there are pending Windows updates to apply.


de Laurie VK3AMA


locked Re: PC changes to speed up JTAlert

HamApps Support (VK3AMA)
 

On 25/01/2019 1:38 am, Ed wrote:

What is the execution bottleneck in JTAlert processing? Is it I/O bound with regard to my disk drive? Would the best way to reduce overall response time be to use a solid state disk drive? Or am I off track and some other aspect of the program is holding up  the response time?

Thanks & 73,

Ed W2GHD
Ed,

There is no real disk-access bottleneck, except for the delay at startup as config data is read into memory.

There is also disk-access delays where querying your log file for each decoded callsign. This can add a second or two when the band is very busy, BUT, JTAlert mitigates the effect of these log lookup times by caching in memory the results of a lookup. This way there is only one disk-based lookup for each unique callsign encountered during a JTAlert session. This affect can be seen when first starting JTAlert when all callsigns are new and don't have a memory-cached record.

What response time are you trying to minimize? Is it the time between when WSJT-X has produced decodes and when JTAlert displays the Callsigns? What sort of delay are you seeing? If your trying to get JTAlert to display Callsigns within the short 2 second window at the end of a FT8 period, that is unlikely especially with a band full of signals.


de Laurie VK3AMA


locked Re: JTAlert hangs when enable or disable "Send Spots to HamSpots.net"

HamApps Support (VK3AMA)
 

On 24/01/2019 11:28 pm, Uwe wrote:
For quite a while I am observing the following issue: Almost each time after switching "Send Spots to HamSpots.net" on or off, JTAlertX hangs one time. Sometimes immediately after switching and sometimes some seconds or minutes later. Workaround is easy: Restarting JTAlert brings it to work again and then the issue is gone. Is reproducable here at my PC, and didn't change so far altough the JTAlert version as well as Windows 10 were updated a couple of times. (I am currently running JTAlertX 2.12.10 build 0000 and Windows 10 Pro 64 bit, version 1803, build 17134.523).
Did anyone experience the same?
73 de Uwe, DG2YCB
Uwe,

That is unusual. The menu entry involved does nothing more that toggling the checked state of the menu line and the setting of a flag variable. There is no direct interaction with spotting, just the setting of the flag, which gets read later when it comes time to send the spots to HamSpots, if the flag = false, then spotting is skipped. Nothing exotic happens.

My question is, why do you need to keep turning spotting on and off?

de Laurie VK3AMA


locked Re: JTAlert 2.12.10 and .Netframe 4.72

HamApps Support (VK3AMA)
 

On 25/01/2019 1:17 am, Rick Arzadon - N8XI via Groups.Io wrote:

I am using WSJT-X V 2.0.0 and JTAlertX V 2.12.4

Trying to install JTAlertX Version 2.12.10 .

I down loaded Netframe 4.7.2 but get a failure (Attached) when trying to install it.
--
Thanks
73, Rick - N8XI

Rick,

I have seen this before, where the .NET installer complains about the modules it has downloaded. I don't know the cause, but suspect it is ISP caching of files that pass through their network.

A sure way to work around this is to download the full .NET installer, called the offline installer.

Try this... http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=863265

The above link comes from this Microsoft page...
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4054530/microsoft-net-framework-4-7-2-offline-installer-for-windows

de Laurie VK3AMA


locked Re: JTAlertX 2.12.10

HamApps Support (VK3AMA)
 

On 24/01/2019 10:56 pm, kj4dhf via Groups.Io wrote:
It working this morning just fine. I did check for JTAlertHamSpots.Plugin in my task manager it was there and yesterday it made no difference if firewall was on/off as I did check that before posting. The gremlin gone for now
thanks for help.

KJ4DHF
Tim
Tim,

Is your Internet unreliable or slow at times?
Likely you were hitting the 15 second Connection timeout when connecting to the HamSpots spotting service.

de Laurie VK3AMA


locked Re: JTAlertX 2.12.10

HamApps Support (VK3AMA)
 

On 25/01/2019 6:10 am, 4X1UF Izzy Lavee wrote:
How do i undock jtalert from jtdx? I accidentally did it and can't edit my settings there
Via the View menu, top line.

   

de Laurie VK3AMA



locked How to configure using WSJT-X ADIF file as worked before file

E <erisi@...>
 

I apologize if this post is a double. How exactly do I configure JTAlert to use WSJT-X's ADIF file, or my online LoTW data, as the basis for the worked B4 database?

Thank you!

Gene Risi


locked Re: PC changes to speed up JTAlert

Ed
 

Guys,

Yes,  I'm talking time delays once the program is loaded and running. It's not that I'm having such a terrible time but I am a little slow on the trigger. Even a few seconds saved by a decrease in the time WSJT-X takes to decode and pass information to JTAlert and display of calls received would help my not so nimble anymore fingers to reply to a QSL. But perhaps there's little to gain compared to a second of response time. If so I've learned something and saved $$$ on an unnecessary hardware upgrades.

Thank you both for responding. 73,

Ed W2GHD


locked Re: JTAlertX 2.12.10

4X1UF Izzy Lavee
 

Hi guys
How do i undock jtalert from jtdx? I accidentally did it and can't edit my settings there

Sent by my Samsung Galaxy Note 9

בתאריך יום ד׳, 23 בינו׳ 2019, 13:28, מאת kj4dhf via Groups.Io <kj4dhf=yahoo.com@groups.io>:

Not sending decoded call signs to hamspots.net.
1) send spots to hamspots.net  is ticked
2) under web services  says tcp connect ok for port 49521

Any ideas ?

Tim
KJ4DHF


locked Re: PC changes to speed up JTAlert

m_scot_alex
 

Ed -

I'm sure that Laurie will ask for more details, but kind of problems are you having with JT Alert's processing time? I monitor 8 bands simultaneously and, even when conditions allow for 30+ decodes per band on multiple bands, I don't experience anything that I would consider abnormal. This is on an i7 Win7 64 Pro system with 8GB of RAM and an SSD. 

One thing that I have noticed is that my friends that use WSJT-X and JT Alert have experienced differences in performance based on which security suite they're using. One friend had to go to great length to get NAV to "trust" everything that WSJT-X / JT Alert interacted with because of very high CPU utilization on every decode cycle and ultimately reduced a visible slow-down to virtually nothing.

Hope this helps.

73,

Mike - N8MSA


locked Re: PC changes to speed up JTAlert

Jim Reisert AD1C
 

On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 7:39 AM Ed W2GHD asked:

What is the execution bottleneck in JTAlert processing? Is it I/O bound with regard to my disk drive?
Would the best way to reduce overall response time be to use a solid state disk drive?
I have a very fast computer (Intel i7-7700), 16GB of memory and an
SSD. Starting WSJT-X seems to take longer than I would expect to load
an ADIF log of 6600 QSOs.

So in answer to your question, I doubt any hardware upgrades would help you.

--
Jim Reisert AD1C, <jjreisert@alum.mit.edu>, http://www.ad1c.us


locked Re: JTAlert 2.12.10 and .Netframe 4.72

James Shaver (N2ADV)
 

I had the same issue.  Make sure you run Windows Update several times - it will resolve any dependencies and you will be able to install 4.7.2 without issues from there. 


Jim S.

N2ADV

On 1/24/2019 9:17 AM, Rick Arzadon - N8XI via Groups.Io wrote:

I am using WSJT-X V 2.0.0 and JTAlertX V 2.12.4

Trying to install JTAlertX Version 2.12.10 .

I down loaded Netframe 4.7.2 but get a failure (Attached) when trying to install it.
--
Thanks
73, Rick - N8XI


locked PC changes to speed up JTAlert

Ed
 

Hello,

What is the execution bottleneck in JTAlert processing? Is it I/O bound with regard to my disk drive? Would the best way to reduce overall response time be to use a solid state disk drive? Or am I off track and some other aspect of the program is holding up  the response time?

Thanks & 73,

Ed W2GHD


locked JTAlert 2.12.10 and .Netframe 4.72

Rick Arzadon - N8XI
 

I am using WSJT-X V 2.0.0 and JTAlertX V 2.12.4

Trying to install JTAlertX Version 2.12.10 .

I down loaded Netframe 4.7.2 but get a failure (Attached) when trying to install it.
--
Thanks
73, Rick - N8XI

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