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locked Re: JT ALert causing double mouse pointer

HamApps Support (VK3AMA)
 

On 31/03/2018 7:11 AM, Michael Black via Groups.Io wrote:
I should've said 10 seconds into every FT8 period.
So yes...the mouse flashes to the spinner momentarily at 10,25,40 and 55.
So sounds like it's the Text Message process doing it.

Mike
Mike,

I'm not seeing that here, but that could be because I run a very fast PC (I7, 8 core, 16 thread, 64GB Ram with multiple SSDs). I'll have to look to trying a VM.

Are you seeing this effect when Text Messages are turned off (Web Services section of the Settings)?

There are other processes spawned using the exact same code as Text Messages (except for an int identifier in the command packet). These are spawned at the end of each Rx period for Sounds play, @ 7-10 secs (random each minute) for BandData collection, @ 4 secs spots to HamSpots.

de Laurie VK3AMA
    


locked Re: New PC

Michael Black
 

The sqlite database is completely portable across all platforms.

So you won't have any problem.

de Mike W9MDB



On Friday, March 30, 2018, 4:13:07 PM CDT, Lawrence Godek <LawrenceG94@...> wrote:


Yeah something in LOG4OM is broke.  It's a long story but i can use it if i load it right, at least for a few QSO's but i have to make all the log entries manually, nothing goes over from WSJT or it's buddy programs.  All of a sudden after powering down the system last week, it just started giving me the "Log4om needs to close".  I have not installed the latest version which was 1-31 or 1-32 so that's not the problem.  One thing is that this XP machine might be a bit low on the RAM capacity and i'm wondering if maybe a piece of RAM didn't go bad on me, that's happened before.  So anyway i want to try a new platform and don't care for the WIN 10 system.  So WIN 7 will be my next toy for a few years anyway.  What i'm not sure about how to do would be to import the old SQlite database into Win 7, what am i going to run into because of the difference in XP-PRO and WIN 7 systems, platforms.  I've been told there are enough differences that you can't do a straight transfer of programs from one to the other.  Know anything about that?

larry
W0OGH

On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 2:01 PM, Rich McCabe <r.mccabe@...> wrote:

Not to take it off topic but is something broke on Log4om? Works great for me.  Yea somethings I don’t like but all it all it’s the best I have used except for contest.

 

Works fine on Win 7 and 10.

 

 

From: Support@HamApps.groups.io <Support@HamApps.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lawrence Godek
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 3:56 PM

To: Support@HamApps.groups.io
Subject: Re: [HamApps] New PC

 

LOG4OM has a lot of nice attributes.  However there are a couple of things that make me scratch because they show no inclinatiion to fix them.  Oh well, nothing can be perfect i guess.  No doubt it will work fine on WIN 10 but i'm going the WIN 7 route and i understand from some sources that it's a little bit different platform.  We'll see.

Larry

W0OGH

 

On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 8:25 AM, Scott Scheirman <scott.scheirman@...> wrote:

I don’t know anything about LOG4OM, but a quick google search suggests that it will work fine on Win 10.  The LOG4OM site suggests that it has ended XP support

 

Migrating to a new PC can interesting. 

 Good luck, Scott W7SLS

 


On Mar 30, 2018, at 8:17 AM, Lawrence Godek <LawrenceG94@...> wrote:

I have a couple of grandkids but they live in Texas and i live in Arizona.  They don't come here to play on the computer so it's just me.  I don't need a high end graphics card cause i don't play games on the machine either.  It's used for Email and ham radio only.  What i have works really well but the XP Pro doesn't have the power nor the memory to run all the digital stuff as the system locks up when i try to run the Decode History page on WSJT-DX.  Been wanting to go to Win 7 anyway.  I see some on Ebay that have 8 or 16 gig of memory along with 500GB of HD of which i will never use more than 60% of so that's perfectly adequate.  i'm not sure how i will get the LOg4OM database into  WIN7 though from the XP Pro system.  I've been told that you can't reuse some of the stuff from XP into win 7.  That's my big concern as it's quite large and has all my contacts in it.

Thanks for the note. APpreciate any input as to this change.

Larry

W0OGH

 

On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 4:41 AM, Gilbert Baron <w0mn00@...> wrote:

And if you have Kids or Grandkids that want to play games on Steam then you better be darn sure to get a high end graphics card. That will cost more than some PCs though. If your card is less than 300 dollars it is probably not enough 😊

NOT needed for ham radio though.

 

W0MN EN34rb 44.08226 N 92.51265 W

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HP Laptop

 

From: Support@HamApps.groups.io <Support@HamApps.groups.io> On Behalf Of Scott Scheirman
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 18:37
To: Support@HamApps.groups.io
Subject: Re: [HamApps] New PC

 

It’s a bit like asking what to have for dinner. ;)

 

Lots of good choices out there, and almost anything will be much faster than a legacy XP machine.

 

One of many ways to start is to think about form factor.  

Laptop — doubles as a portable computer, but may have fewer USB slots, and some find the ergonomics a challenge (they take up desk space)

Desktop — wide range available, from entry level to uber gaming.  Some have fan noise, and consider where you’ll put it. Desktop ( valuable space), floor (longer cables).

Mini — example. Intel NUC.   Wide range including loaded with SSD.  Quiet.  Mount on the back PC a monitor if you wish

Micro — example Intel compute stick, like a thumb drive.  I’ve seen ppl run Winlink express on these in a go kit, but not sure they’d be up to multiple programs etc.  

 

Me? I retired my laptop and went for an i7 intel NUC.  Happy.  

 

Good luck whatever you choose 

Scott

W7SLS

 


On Mar 29, 2018, at 3:59 PM, Lawrence Godek <LawrenceG94@...> wrote:

Well it's evident that my computer running XP-Pro SP3 is never going to get better and allow me to run the full WSJT- WSJTX pair.  Besides that i can't even run LOG4OM anymore.  So if i'm going to have to upgrade to Windows 10 or something (?) what should i specify my needs are for max capabilities in the way of memory?  Something off the shelf or customization necessary?  How about Win 7 or 8?  See lots of those machines available with what seems like lots of memory capacity and fairly economical at that.  Really like to be able to take advantage of all of the features in WSJTX.

Larry

W0OGH


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locked Re: New PC

HamApps Support (VK3AMA)
 

Larry has made is decision on the OS for his new PC and has posted his Log4Om questions to the Log4OM forum. Time to close the thread.

de Laurie VK3AMA


locked JTAlert request

Tom Melvin
 

Re-posted as clash of tags blocked sending first time.  :-(


Hi Laurie,

Upgrade installed Ok - no issues.

Just wondering if the query I had a few weeks back will make a future upgrade - Applies to 1.9.0 RCx -  when wsjt added the UDP changes.

When calling CQ - or working a station - I want check another station that has been decoded - as soon as I click on it , the callsign I am working changes to the one being looked at so you abort the current QSO and start calling another.

Would like a way, <ALT> <Click> was suggested by Mike Black - or on  right click system does not add to UDP or, if there is a way to use single click to select, double click to use.

At present need to take callsign, start up a browser and re-type call sign - or with sending a  text message as soon as right click the callsign - it’s ok as long as not in a qso. If calling CQ occasionally want to check another station calling CQ - as soon as try oops - now calling them.

Thanks

Tom
GM8MJV


On 30 Mar 2018, at 19:41, HamApps Support (VK3AMA) <vk3ama.ham.apps@...> wrote:

New JTAlert 2.10.16 is available for download.



locked Re: New PC

Lawrence Godek
 

Yeah something in LOG4OM is broke.  It's a long story but i can use it if i load it right, at least for a few QSO's but i have to make all the log entries manually, nothing goes over from WSJT or it's buddy programs.  All of a sudden after powering down the system last week, it just started giving me the "Log4om needs to close".  I have not installed the latest version which was 1-31 or 1-32 so that's not the problem.  One thing is that this XP machine might be a bit low on the RAM capacity and i'm wondering if maybe a piece of RAM didn't go bad on me, that's happened before.  So anyway i want to try a new platform and don't care for the WIN 10 system.  So WIN 7 will be my next toy for a few years anyway.  What i'm not sure about how to do would be to import the old SQlite database into Win 7, what am i going to run into because of the difference in XP-PRO and WIN 7 systems, platforms.  I've been told there are enough differences that you can't do a straight transfer of programs from one to the other.  Know anything about that?

larry
W0OGH

On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 2:01 PM, Rich McCabe <r.mccabe@...> wrote:

Not to take it off topic but is something broke on Log4om? Works great for me.  Yea somethings I don’t like but all it all it’s the best I have used except for contest.

 

Works fine on Win 7 and 10.

 

 

From: Support@HamApps.groups.io <Support@HamApps.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lawrence Godek
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 3:56 PM

To: Support@HamApps.groups.io
Subject: Re: [HamApps] New PC

 

LOG4OM has a lot of nice attributes.  However there are a couple of things that make me scratch because they show no inclinatiion to fix them.  Oh well, nothing can be perfect i guess.  No doubt it will work fine on WIN 10 but i'm going the WIN 7 route and i understand from some sources that it's a little bit different platform.  We'll see.

Larry

W0OGH

 

On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 8:25 AM, Scott Scheirman <scott.scheirman@...> wrote:

I don’t know anything about LOG4OM, but a quick google search suggests that it will work fine on Win 10.  The LOG4OM site suggests that it has ended XP support

 

Migrating to a new PC can interesting. 

 Good luck, Scott W7SLS

 


On Mar 30, 2018, at 8:17 AM, Lawrence Godek <LawrenceG94@...> wrote:

I have a couple of grandkids but they live in Texas and i live in Arizona.  They don't come here to play on the computer so it's just me.  I don't need a high end graphics card cause i don't play games on the machine either.  It's used for Email and ham radio only.  What i have works really well but the XP Pro doesn't have the power nor the memory to run all the digital stuff as the system locks up when i try to run the Decode History page on WSJT-DX.  Been wanting to go to Win 7 anyway.  I see some on Ebay that have 8 or 16 gig of memory along with 500GB of HD of which i will never use more than 60% of so that's perfectly adequate.  i'm not sure how i will get the LOg4OM database into  WIN7 though from the XP Pro system.  I've been told that you can't reuse some of the stuff from XP into win 7.  That's my big concern as it's quite large and has all my contacts in it.

Thanks for the note. APpreciate any input as to this change.

Larry

W0OGH

 

On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 4:41 AM, Gilbert Baron <w0mn00@...> wrote:

And if you have Kids or Grandkids that want to play games on Steam then you better be darn sure to get a high end graphics card. That will cost more than some PCs though. If your card is less than 300 dollars it is probably not enough 😊

NOT needed for ham radio though.

 

W0MN EN34rb 44.08226 N 92.51265 W

Hierro candente, batir de repente

HP Laptop

 

From: Support@HamApps.groups.io <Support@HamApps.groups.io> On Behalf Of Scott Scheirman
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 18:37
To: Support@HamApps.groups.io
Subject: Re: [HamApps] New PC

 

It’s a bit like asking what to have for dinner. ;)

 

Lots of good choices out there, and almost anything will be much faster than a legacy XP machine.

 

One of many ways to start is to think about form factor.  

Laptop — doubles as a portable computer, but may have fewer USB slots, and some find the ergonomics a challenge (they take up desk space)

Desktop — wide range available, from entry level to uber gaming.  Some have fan noise, and consider where you’ll put it. Desktop ( valuable space), floor (longer cables).

Mini — example. Intel NUC.   Wide range including loaded with SSD.  Quiet.  Mount on the back PC a monitor if you wish

Micro — example Intel compute stick, like a thumb drive.  I’ve seen ppl run Winlink express on these in a go kit, but not sure they’d be up to multiple programs etc.  

 

Me? I retired my laptop and went for an i7 intel NUC.  Happy.  

 

Good luck whatever you choose 

Scott

W7SLS

 


On Mar 29, 2018, at 3:59 PM, Lawrence Godek <LawrenceG94@...> wrote:

Well it's evident that my computer running XP-Pro SP3 is never going to get better and allow me to run the full WSJT- WSJTX pair.  Besides that i can't even run LOG4OM anymore.  So if i'm going to have to upgrade to Windows 10 or something (?) what should i specify my needs are for max capabilities in the way of memory?  Something off the shelf or customization necessary?  How about Win 7 or 8?  See lots of those machines available with what seems like lots of memory capacity and fairly economical at that.  Really like to be able to take advantage of all of the features in WSJTX.

Larry

W0OGH


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locked Re: New PC

Lawrence Godek
 

Yeah that's what they tell me to so why not go there in the 1st place.  Guess i'm stubborn!  I have a laptop in the back room that my galfriend uses and she doesn't like it at all.  I've tried to help her out and find it's frustrating as hell.  Probable reason is that my short term memory almost isn't and i forget from one minute to the next what i've just done or what i've seen on the screen.  I've ben around PC's since the early 80's and still haven't learned much.  Again, short term memory situation.  I'm hoping the WIN 7 thing will be simple to operate and keep up with.  Don't know how long i'll be able to operate one after 5-10 years goes by.

Tks for the words.

Larry
W0OGH


On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 2:00 PM, Brad Rich <brad.rich@...> wrote:

Someday in the near future you will have to upgrade to Windows 10 for security reasons.  I tried a Windows 7 to 10 upgrade and could not get the upgrade to work.  I ended up completing a fresh install of 10 and I love it.  I run a large suite of HAM applications with no problems.

 

From: Support@HamApps.groups.io [mailto:Support@HamApps.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lawrence Godek
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 3:56 PM


To: Support@HamApps.groups.io
Subject: Re: [HamApps] New PC

 

LOG4OM has a lot of nice attributes.  However there are a couple of things that make me scratch because they show no inclinatiion to fix them.  Oh well, nothing can be perfect i guess.  No doubt it will work fine on WIN 10 but i'm going the WIN 7 route and i understand from some sources that it's a little bit different platform.  We'll see.

Larry

W0OGH

 

On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 8:25 AM, Scott Scheirman <scott.scheirman@...> wrote:

I don’t know anything about LOG4OM, but a quick google search suggests that it will work fine on Win 10.  The LOG4OM site suggests that it has ended XP support

 

Migrating to a new PC can interesting. 

 Good luck, Scott W7SLS

 


On Mar 30, 2018, at 8:17 AM, Lawrence Godek <LawrenceG94@...> wrote:

I have a couple of grandkids but they live in Texas and i live in Arizona.  They don't come here to play on the computer so it's just me.  I don't need a high end graphics card cause i don't play games on the machine either.  It's used for Email and ham radio only.  What i have works really well but the XP Pro doesn't have the power nor the memory to run all the digital stuff as the system locks up when i try to run the Decode History page on WSJT-DX.  Been wanting to go to Win 7 anyway.  I see some on Ebay that have 8 or 16 gig of memory along with 500GB of HD of which i will never use more than 60% of so that's perfectly adequate.  i'm not sure how i will get the LOg4OM database into  WIN7 though from the XP Pro system.  I've been told that you can't reuse some of the stuff from XP into win 7.  That's my big concern as it's quite large and has all my contacts in it.

Thanks for the note. APpreciate any input as to this change.

Larry

W0OGH

 

On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 4:41 AM, Gilbert Baron <w0mn00@...> wrote:

And if you have Kids or Grandkids that want to play games on Steam then you better be darn sure to get a high end graphics card. That will cost more than some PCs though. If your card is less than 300 dollars it is probably not enough 😊

NOT needed for ham radio though.

 

W0MN EN34rb 44.08226 N 92.51265 W

Hierro candente, batir de repente

HP Laptop

 

From: Support@HamApps.groups.io <Support@HamApps.groups.io> On Behalf Of Scott Scheirman
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 18:37
To: Support@HamApps.groups.io
Subject: Re: [HamApps] New PC

 

It’s a bit like asking what to have for dinner. ;)

 

Lots of good choices out there, and almost anything will be much faster than a legacy XP machine.

 

One of many ways to start is to think about form factor.  

Laptop — doubles as a portable computer, but may have fewer USB slots, and some find the ergonomics a challenge (they take up desk space)

Desktop — wide range available, from entry level to uber gaming.  Some have fan noise, and consider where you’ll put it. Desktop ( valuable space), floor (longer cables).

Mini — example. Intel NUC.   Wide range including loaded with SSD.  Quiet.  Mount on the back PC a monitor if you wish

Micro — example Intel compute stick, like a thumb drive.  I’ve seen ppl run Winlink express on these in a go kit, but not sure they’d be up to multiple programs etc.  

 

Me? I retired my laptop and went for an i7 intel NUC.  Happy.  

 

Good luck whatever you choose 

Scott

W7SLS

 


On Mar 29, 2018, at 3:59 PM, Lawrence Godek <LawrenceG94@...> wrote:

Well it's evident that my computer running XP-Pro SP3 is never going to get better and allow me to run the full WSJT- WSJTX pair.  Besides that i can't even run LOG4OM anymore.  So if i'm going to have to upgrade to Windows 10 or something (?) what should i specify my needs are for max capabilities in the way of memory?  Something off the shelf or customization necessary?  How about Win 7 or 8?  See lots of those machines available with what seems like lots of memory capacity and fairly economical at that.  Really like to be able to take advantage of all of the features in WSJTX.

Larry

W0OGH


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locked Re: New PC

Rich McCabe
 

Not to take it off topic but is something broke on Log4om? Works great for me.  Yea somethings I don’t like but all it all it’s the best I have used except for contest.

 

Works fine on Win 7 and 10.

 

 

From: Support@HamApps.groups.io <Support@HamApps.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lawrence Godek
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 3:56 PM
To: Support@HamApps.groups.io
Subject: Re: [HamApps] New PC

 

LOG4OM has a lot of nice attributes.  However there are a couple of things that make me scratch because they show no inclinatiion to fix them.  Oh well, nothing can be perfect i guess.  No doubt it will work fine on WIN 10 but i'm going the WIN 7 route and i understand from some sources that it's a little bit different platform.  We'll see.

Larry

W0OGH

 

On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 8:25 AM, Scott Scheirman <scott.scheirman@...> wrote:

I don’t know anything about LOG4OM, but a quick google search suggests that it will work fine on Win 10.  The LOG4OM site suggests that it has ended XP support

 

Migrating to a new PC can interesting. 

 Good luck, Scott W7SLS

 


On Mar 30, 2018, at 8:17 AM, Lawrence Godek <LawrenceG94@...> wrote:

I have a couple of grandkids but they live in Texas and i live in Arizona.  They don't come here to play on the computer so it's just me.  I don't need a high end graphics card cause i don't play games on the machine either.  It's used for Email and ham radio only.  What i have works really well but the XP Pro doesn't have the power nor the memory to run all the digital stuff as the system locks up when i try to run the Decode History page on WSJT-DX.  Been wanting to go to Win 7 anyway.  I see some on Ebay that have 8 or 16 gig of memory along with 500GB of HD of which i will never use more than 60% of so that's perfectly adequate.  i'm not sure how i will get the LOg4OM database into  WIN7 though from the XP Pro system.  I've been told that you can't reuse some of the stuff from XP into win 7.  That's my big concern as it's quite large and has all my contacts in it.

Thanks for the note. APpreciate any input as to this change.

Larry

W0OGH

 

On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 4:41 AM, Gilbert Baron <w0mn00@...> wrote:

And if you have Kids or Grandkids that want to play games on Steam then you better be darn sure to get a high end graphics card. That will cost more than some PCs though. If your card is less than 300 dollars it is probably not enough 😊

NOT needed for ham radio though.

 

W0MN EN34rb 44.08226 N 92.51265 W

Hierro candente, batir de repente

HP Laptop

 

From: Support@HamApps.groups.io <Support@HamApps.groups.io> On Behalf Of Scott Scheirman
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 18:37
To: Support@HamApps.groups.io
Subject: Re: [HamApps] New PC

 

It’s a bit like asking what to have for dinner. ;)

 

Lots of good choices out there, and almost anything will be much faster than a legacy XP machine.

 

One of many ways to start is to think about form factor.  

Laptop — doubles as a portable computer, but may have fewer USB slots, and some find the ergonomics a challenge (they take up desk space)

Desktop — wide range available, from entry level to uber gaming.  Some have fan noise, and consider where you’ll put it. Desktop ( valuable space), floor (longer cables).

Mini — example. Intel NUC.   Wide range including loaded with SSD.  Quiet.  Mount on the back PC a monitor if you wish

Micro — example Intel compute stick, like a thumb drive.  I’ve seen ppl run Winlink express on these in a go kit, but not sure they’d be up to multiple programs etc.  

 

Me? I retired my laptop and went for an i7 intel NUC.  Happy.  

 

Good luck whatever you choose 

Scott

W7SLS

 


On Mar 29, 2018, at 3:59 PM, Lawrence Godek <LawrenceG94@...> wrote:

Well it's evident that my computer running XP-Pro SP3 is never going to get better and allow me to run the full WSJT- WSJTX pair.  Besides that i can't even run LOG4OM anymore.  So if i'm going to have to upgrade to Windows 10 or something (?) what should i specify my needs are for max capabilities in the way of memory?  Something off the shelf or customization necessary?  How about Win 7 or 8?  See lots of those machines available with what seems like lots of memory capacity and fairly economical at that.  Really like to be able to take advantage of all of the features in WSJTX.

Larry

W0OGH


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locked Re: New PC

Brad Rich <brad.rich@...>
 

Someday in the near future you will have to upgrade to Windows 10 for security reasons.  I tried a Windows 7 to 10 upgrade and could not get the upgrade to work.  I ended up completing a fresh install of 10 and I love it.  I run a large suite of HAM applications with no problems.

 

From: Support@HamApps.groups.io [mailto:Support@HamApps.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lawrence Godek
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 3:56 PM
To: Support@HamApps.groups.io
Subject: Re: [HamApps] New PC

 

LOG4OM has a lot of nice attributes.  However there are a couple of things that make me scratch because they show no inclinatiion to fix them.  Oh well, nothing can be perfect i guess.  No doubt it will work fine on WIN 10 but i'm going the WIN 7 route and i understand from some sources that it's a little bit different platform.  We'll see.

Larry

W0OGH

 

On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 8:25 AM, Scott Scheirman <scott.scheirman@...> wrote:

I don’t know anything about LOG4OM, but a quick google search suggests that it will work fine on Win 10.  The LOG4OM site suggests that it has ended XP support

 

Migrating to a new PC can interesting. 

 Good luck, Scott W7SLS

 


On Mar 30, 2018, at 8:17 AM, Lawrence Godek <LawrenceG94@...> wrote:

I have a couple of grandkids but they live in Texas and i live in Arizona.  They don't come here to play on the computer so it's just me.  I don't need a high end graphics card cause i don't play games on the machine either.  It's used for Email and ham radio only.  What i have works really well but the XP Pro doesn't have the power nor the memory to run all the digital stuff as the system locks up when i try to run the Decode History page on WSJT-DX.  Been wanting to go to Win 7 anyway.  I see some on Ebay that have 8 or 16 gig of memory along with 500GB of HD of which i will never use more than 60% of so that's perfectly adequate.  i'm not sure how i will get the LOg4OM database into  WIN7 though from the XP Pro system.  I've been told that you can't reuse some of the stuff from XP into win 7.  That's my big concern as it's quite large and has all my contacts in it.

Thanks for the note. APpreciate any input as to this change.

Larry

W0OGH

 

On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 4:41 AM, Gilbert Baron <w0mn00@...> wrote:

And if you have Kids or Grandkids that want to play games on Steam then you better be darn sure to get a high end graphics card. That will cost more than some PCs though. If your card is less than 300 dollars it is probably not enough 😊

NOT needed for ham radio though.

 

W0MN EN34rb 44.08226 N 92.51265 W

Hierro candente, batir de repente

HP Laptop

 

From: Support@HamApps.groups.io <Support@HamApps.groups.io> On Behalf Of Scott Scheirman
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 18:37
To: Support@HamApps.groups.io
Subject: Re: [HamApps] New PC

 

It’s a bit like asking what to have for dinner. ;)

 

Lots of good choices out there, and almost anything will be much faster than a legacy XP machine.

 

One of many ways to start is to think about form factor.  

Laptop — doubles as a portable computer, but may have fewer USB slots, and some find the ergonomics a challenge (they take up desk space)

Desktop — wide range available, from entry level to uber gaming.  Some have fan noise, and consider where you’ll put it. Desktop ( valuable space), floor (longer cables).

Mini — example. Intel NUC.   Wide range including loaded with SSD.  Quiet.  Mount on the back PC a monitor if you wish

Micro — example Intel compute stick, like a thumb drive.  I’ve seen ppl run Winlink express on these in a go kit, but not sure they’d be up to multiple programs etc.  

 

Me? I retired my laptop and went for an i7 intel NUC.  Happy.  

 

Good luck whatever you choose 

Scott

W7SLS

 


On Mar 29, 2018, at 3:59 PM, Lawrence Godek <LawrenceG94@...> wrote:

Well it's evident that my computer running XP-Pro SP3 is never going to get better and allow me to run the full WSJT- WSJTX pair.  Besides that i can't even run LOG4OM anymore.  So if i'm going to have to upgrade to Windows 10 or something (?) what should i specify my needs are for max capabilities in the way of memory?  Something off the shelf or customization necessary?  How about Win 7 or 8?  See lots of those machines available with what seems like lots of memory capacity and fairly economical at that.  Really like to be able to take advantage of all of the features in WSJTX.

Larry

W0OGH


--

W0MN EN34rb 44.08226 N 92.51265 W

Hierro candente, batir de repente

 

 


locked Re: New PC

Lawrence Godek
 

LOG4OM has a lot of nice attributes.  However there are a couple of things that make me scratch because they show no inclinatiion to fix them.  Oh well, nothing can be perfect i guess.  No doubt it will work fine on WIN 10 but i'm going the WIN 7 route and i understand from some sources that it's a little bit different platform.  We'll see.

Larry
W0OGH

On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 8:25 AM, Scott Scheirman <scott.scheirman@...> wrote:
I don’t know anything about LOG4OM, but a quick google search suggests that it will work fine on Win 10.  The LOG4OM site suggests that it has ended XP support

Migrating to a new PC can interesting. 
 Good luck, Scott W7SLS



On Mar 30, 2018, at 8:17 AM, Lawrence Godek <LawrenceG94@...> wrote:

I have a couple of grandkids but they live in Texas and i live in Arizona.  They don't come here to play on the computer so it's just me.  I don't need a high end graphics card cause i don't play games on the machine either.  It's used for Email and ham radio only.  What i have works really well but the XP Pro doesn't have the power nor the memory to run all the digital stuff as the system locks up when i try to run the Decode History page on WSJT-DX.  Been wanting to go to Win 7 anyway.  I see some on Ebay that have 8 or 16 gig of memory along with 500GB of HD of which i will never use more than 60% of so that's perfectly adequate.  i'm not sure how i will get the LOg4OM database into  WIN7 though from the XP Pro system.  I've been told that you can't reuse some of the stuff from XP into win 7.  That's my big concern as it's quite large and has all my contacts in it.

Thanks for the note. APpreciate any input as to this change.

Larry
W0OGH

On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 4:41 AM, Gilbert Baron <w0mn00@...> wrote:

And if you have Kids or Grandkids that want to play games on Steam then you better be darn sure to get a high end graphics card. That will cost more than some PCs though. If your card is less than 300 dollars it is probably not enough 😊

NOT needed for ham radio though.

 

W0MN EN34rb 44.08226 N 92.51265 W

Hierro candente, batir de repente

HP Laptop

 

From: Support@HamApps.groups.io <Support@HamApps.groups.io> On Behalf Of Scott Scheirman
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 18:37
To: Support@HamApps.groups.io
Subject: Re: [HamApps] New PC

 

It’s a bit like asking what to have for dinner. ;)

 

Lots of good choices out there, and almost anything will be much faster than a legacy XP machine.

 

One of many ways to start is to think about form factor.  

Laptop — doubles as a portable computer, but may have fewer USB slots, and some find the ergonomics a challenge (they take up desk space)

Desktop — wide range available, from entry level to uber gaming.  Some have fan noise, and consider where you’ll put it. Desktop ( valuable space), floor (longer cables).

Mini — example. Intel NUC.   Wide range including loaded with SSD.  Quiet.  Mount on the back PC a monitor if you wish

Micro — example Intel compute stick, like a thumb drive.  I’ve seen ppl run Winlink express on these in a go kit, but not sure they’d be up to multiple programs etc.  

 

Me? I retired my laptop and went for an i7 intel NUC.  Happy.  

 

Good luck whatever you choose 

Scott

W7SLS

 


On Mar 29, 2018, at 3:59 PM, Lawrence Godek <LawrenceG94@...> wrote:

Well it's evident that my computer running XP-Pro SP3 is never going to get better and allow me to run the full WSJT- WSJTX pair.  Besides that i can't even run LOG4OM anymore.  So if i'm going to have to upgrade to Windows 10 or something (?) what should i specify my needs are for max capabilities in the way of memory?  Something off the shelf or customization necessary?  How about Win 7 or 8?  See lots of those machines available with what seems like lots of memory capacity and fairly economical at that.  Really like to be able to take advantage of all of the features in WSJTX.

Larry

W0OGH


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locked Re: JT ALert causing double mouse pointer

Michael Black
 

I should've said 10 seconds into every FT8 period.
So yes...the mouse flashes to the spinner momentarily at 10,25,40 and 55.
So sounds like it's the Text Message process doing it.

Mike


On Friday, March 30, 2018, 2:33:32 PM CDT, HamApps Support (VK3AMA) <vk3ama.ham.apps@...> wrote:


On 31/03/2018 12:20 AM, Michael Black via Groups.Io wrote:
Do we really need that mouse pointer change?

de Mike W9MDB
Mike,

The mouse pointer change @ 10 secs is not caused by any deliberate Mouse manipulation action by the JTAlert code. I suspect it is an OS action in response to a dll call.

The Text Message process spawning occurs at multiple times in the minute, at 10, 25, 40 and 55 secs. If the Text Message spawning is the cause you should be seeing the pointer change at those times as well. Do you see that?

Further, if the process spawning is the cause, then the pointer change should be happening as the result of other process spawning, HamSpots spotting, SpotCollector spotting, Sounds Playing, XML Lookups, Online Log uploads, etc (have a look at the number of JTAlert plugin files, they all get spawned using the same code.

de Laurie VK3AMA
   


locked Re: JT ALert causing double mouse pointer

HamApps Support (VK3AMA)
 

On 31/03/2018 4:34 AM, Brad Rich wrote:

It might be an operating system thing reacting to an app call. I doubt seriously the app intended to manuopulate the mouse pointer at 10 seconds.

Brad,

I am suspecting this is the case. The temporary change to the busy pointer being generated by Windows in response to a call to one of its dlls.

All process spawning (needed since the JTAlert code doesn't support multi-threading) is handled by a helper application (JTAlertHelper.exe) receiving instructions from the main JTAlert process. This interprocess communications is done using a standard Windows mechanism called Mailslots. Mailslot functionality involves different calls to kernel32.dll. All bog standard Windows api functions.

I am only guessing these calls to kernel32.dll are the cause, but am not certain or convinced, as there are many Mailslot commands issued during a one minute period, not just @ 10 secs.

de Laurie VK3AMA
   


locked Re: JT ALert causing double mouse pointer

HamApps Support (VK3AMA)
 

On 31/03/2018 4:28 AM, N S via Groups.Io wrote:
Where I really notice it is when I use the "big red pointer" mouse pointer set.  This is a set of mouse pointers that are large and red for those that have vision issues or just have issues trying to find a small mouse pointer on a very large screen.   When using any of these optional pointers, I see the flash at 10/15 and on some of them I get a double pointer.

I'm not sure why JTAlert would have any need to manipulate the mouse pointer.

Norm
Norm,

As previously stated, JTAlert does not manipulate the mouse pointer except when hovering the pointer over the buttons in the Decodes History Window. There is no pointer change made @10 secs.

This "big red pointer" set you refer to, is that part of Windows or provided by a 3rd party? I cannot find such a set on any of my PCs. Is this pointer set provided by another application, if so what is it and where can it be downloaded?

de Laurie VK3AMA



locked Re: JT ALert causing double mouse pointer

HamApps Support (VK3AMA)
 

On 31/03/2018 12:20 AM, Michael Black via Groups.Io wrote:
Do we really need that mouse pointer change?

de Mike W9MDB
Mike,

The mouse pointer change @ 10 secs is not caused by any deliberate Mouse manipulation action by the JTAlert code. I suspect it is an OS action in response to a dll call.

The Text Message process spawning occurs at multiple times in the minute, at 10, 25, 40 and 55 secs. If the Text Message spawning is the cause you should be seeing the pointer change at those times as well. Do you see that?

Further, if the process spawning is the cause, then the pointer change should be happening as the result of other process spawning, HamSpots spotting, SpotCollector spotting, Sounds Playing, XML Lookups, Online Log uploads, etc (have a look at the number of JTAlert plugin files, they all get spawned using the same code.

de Laurie VK3AMA
   


locked Re: Problems installing 2.10.16

Mike Steiner
 

Yeah I tried the reboot before you replied and that seem to fix the problem…

 

Thanks..

 

From: Support@HamApps.groups.io <Support@HamApps.groups.io> On Behalf Of HamApps Support (VK3AMA)
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 12:05 PM
To: Support@HamApps.groups.io
Subject: Re: [HamApps] Problems installing 2.10.16

 

On 31/03/2018 5:49 AM, Mike Steiner wrote:

I get the following error:

 

 

Mike k7QDX

Do a PC Restart and try again to be sure that Win10 is not in an unstable state with updates pending.

Also check that you managed to get a full download, the HamApps_JTAlert_2.10.16_Setup.exe file should be 5154260 bytes exactly.

If the problem persists, you may have to temporarily disable your virus/malware protection.

de Laurie VK3AMA
   


locked Re: Problems installing 2.10.16

HamApps Support (VK3AMA)
 

On 31/03/2018 5:49 AM, Mike Steiner wrote:

I get the following error:

 

 

Mike k7QDX

Do a PC Restart and try again to be sure that Win10 is not in an unstable state with updates pending.

Also check that you managed to get a full download, the HamApps_JTAlert_2.10.16_Setup.exe file should be 5154260 bytes exactly.

If the problem persists, you may have to temporarily disable your virus/malware protection.

de Laurie VK3AMA
   


locked Re: Problems installing 2.10.16

Brian (N2MLP)
 

Just installed   no problem

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

========================

 

 

From: Support@HamApps.groups.io [mailto:Support@HamApps.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Steiner
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 2:49 PM
To: Support@HamApps.groups.io
Subject: [HamApps] Problems installing 2.10.16

 

I get the following error:

 

 

Mike k7QDX

 

From: Support@HamApps.groups.io <Support@HamApps.groups.io> On Behalf Of HamApps Support (VK3AMA)
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 11:41 AM
To: Support@HamApps.groups.io
Subject: [HamApps] New JTAlert 2.10.16 Available : DXView Rotator support, GridChase Fix + more. #Announcement #NewRelease

 

New JTAlert 2.10.16 is available for download.

Visit https://HamApps.com for the download link and upgrade instructions.

Important: For the Grid Chase fix, a Scan Log needs to be run so that missing confirmed Grids are identified.

Release Notes for 2.10.16

  New Features:
    - Clear button on Text Messages Window removes old messages.
    - Hotkeys to turn a DXLab DXView configured rotator, SP or LP for your current
       QSO partner (DX Call) when the DX Grid is set. Available for WSTX-X & JTDX
       only. The hotkeys are set to match those used by DXView (Alt+R = SP,
       Alt+P = LP) and cannot be changed.

  Changes:
    - ClubLog uploads now use secure http (https).
    - Callsign tooltip LoTW upload date extended to include the month as well as
       the year (format mm-yyyy). Note this requires the Callsigns database.
    - Ignored Callsigns will no longer trigger an "Out of Shack" alert regardless
       of any other alert types triggered by that callsign.
    - Internal code changes to try and prevent the random non-display of the Text
       Message window. Note, these changes may not correct the behaviour (as this
       has not been reproduceable in testing).

  Fixes:
    - QSL Message and Comments %Power% substitution not populated.
    - Log4OM SQLite Log logging failure message worded incorrectly as MySQL.
    - Incorrect LoTW & eQSL Flag positions on Alert Types Summary window.
    - Text Message window, if already open, not showing Callsign when using the
       right-click context menu of a decoded Callsign.
    - Decodes History: Random display of incorrect number of bars in Alerts graph
       (triggered by multiple image signals).
    - Grid Chase alerts for Callsigns already LoTW confirmed in the current Month
       when there existed a QSO for the same Callsign/Grid combination LoTW
       confirmed in a previous Month.


de Laurie VK3AMA


locked Problems installing 2.10.16

Mike Steiner
 

I get the following error:

 

 

Mike k7QDX

 

From: Support@HamApps.groups.io <Support@HamApps.groups.io> On Behalf Of HamApps Support (VK3AMA)
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 11:41 AM
To: Support@HamApps.groups.io
Subject: [HamApps] New JTAlert 2.10.16 Available : DXView Rotator support, GridChase Fix + more. #Announcement #NewRelease

 

New JTAlert 2.10.16 is available for download.

Visit https://HamApps.com for the download link and upgrade instructions.

Important: For the Grid Chase fix, a Scan Log needs to be run so that missing confirmed Grids are identified.

Release Notes for 2.10.16

  New Features:
    - Clear button on Text Messages Window removes old messages.
    - Hotkeys to turn a DXLab DXView configured rotator, SP or LP for your current
       QSO partner (DX Call) when the DX Grid is set. Available for WSTX-X & JTDX
       only. The hotkeys are set to match those used by DXView (Alt+R = SP,
       Alt+P = LP) and cannot be changed.

  Changes:
    - ClubLog uploads now use secure http (https).
    - Callsign tooltip LoTW upload date extended to include the month as well as
       the year (format mm-yyyy). Note this requires the Callsigns database.
    - Ignored Callsigns will no longer trigger an "Out of Shack" alert regardless
       of any other alert types triggered by that callsign.
    - Internal code changes to try and prevent the random non-display of the Text
       Message window. Note, these changes may not correct the behaviour (as this
       has not been reproduceable in testing).

  Fixes:
    - QSL Message and Comments %Power% substitution not populated.
    - Log4OM SQLite Log logging failure message worded incorrectly as MySQL.
    - Incorrect LoTW & eQSL Flag positions on Alert Types Summary window.
    - Text Message window, if already open, not showing Callsign when using the
       right-click context menu of a decoded Callsign.
    - Decodes History: Random display of incorrect number of bars in Alerts graph
       (triggered by multiple image signals).
    - Grid Chase alerts for Callsigns already LoTW confirmed in the current Month
       when there existed a QSO for the same Callsign/Grid combination LoTW
       confirmed in a previous Month.


de Laurie VK3AMA


locked New JTAlert 2.10.16 Available : DXView Rotator support, GridChase Fix + more. #Announcement #NewRelease

HamApps Support (VK3AMA)
 

New JTAlert 2.10.16 is available for download.

Visit https://HamApps.com for the download link and upgrade instructions.

Important: For the Grid Chase fix, a Scan Log needs to be run so that missing confirmed Grids are identified.

Release Notes for 2.10.16
  New Features:
    - Clear button on Text Messages Window removes old messages.
    - Hotkeys to turn a DXLab DXView configured rotator, SP or LP for your current
       QSO partner (DX Call) when the DX Grid is set. Available for WSTX-X & JTDX
       only. The hotkeys are set to match those used by DXView (Alt+R = SP,
       Alt+P = LP) and cannot be changed.

  Changes:
    - ClubLog uploads now use secure http (https).
    - Callsign tooltip LoTW upload date extended to include the month as well as
       the year (format mm-yyyy). Note this requires the Callsigns database.
    - Ignored Callsigns will no longer trigger an "Out of Shack" alert regardless
       of any other alert types triggered by that callsign.
    - Internal code changes to try and prevent the random non-display of the Text
       Message window. Note, these changes may not correct the behaviour (as this
       has not been reproduceable in testing).

  Fixes:
    - QSL Message and Comments %Power% substitution not populated.
    - Log4OM SQLite Log logging failure message worded incorrectly as MySQL.
    - Incorrect LoTW & eQSL Flag positions on Alert Types Summary window.
    - Text Message window, if already open, not showing Callsign when using the
       right-click context menu of a decoded Callsign.
    - Decodes History: Random display of incorrect number of bars in Alerts graph
       (triggered by multiple image signals).
    - Grid Chase alerts for Callsigns already LoTW confirmed in the current Month
       when there existed a QSO for the same Callsign/Grid combination LoTW
       confirmed in a previous Month.

de Laurie VK3AMA


locked Re: JT ALert causing double mouse pointer

Brad Rich <brad.rich@...>
 

It might be an operating system thing reacting to an app call. I doubt seriously the app intended to manuopulate the mouse pointer at 10 seconds.

 

From: Support@HamApps.groups.io [mailto:Support@HamApps.groups.io] On Behalf Of N S via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 12:29 PM
To: Support@HamApps.groups.io
Subject: Re: [HamApps] JT ALert causing double mouse pointer

 

Where I really notice it is when I use the "big red pointer" mouse pointer set.  This is a set of mouse pointers that are large and red for those that have vision issues or just have issues trying to find a small mouse pointer on a very large screen.   When using any of these optional pointers, I see the flash at 10/15 and on some of them I get a double pointer.

I'm not sure why JTAlert would have any need to manipulate the mouse pointer.

Norm


locked Re: JT ALert causing double mouse pointer

N S
 

Where I really notice it is when I use the "big red pointer" mouse pointer set.  This is a set of mouse pointers that are large and red for those that have vision issues or just have issues trying to find a small mouse pointer on a very large screen.   When using any of these optional pointers, I see the flash at 10/15 and on some of them I get a double pointer.

I'm not sure why JTAlert would have any need to manipulate the mouse pointer.

Norm

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