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locked Re: New PC

Rich McCabe
 

Not to take it off topic but is something broke on Log4om? Works great for me.  Yea somethings I don’t like but all it all it’s the best I have used except for contest.

 

Works fine on Win 7 and 10.

 

 

From: Support@HamApps.groups.io <Support@HamApps.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lawrence Godek
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 3:56 PM
To: Support@HamApps.groups.io
Subject: Re: [HamApps] New PC

 

LOG4OM has a lot of nice attributes.  However there are a couple of things that make me scratch because they show no inclinatiion to fix them.  Oh well, nothing can be perfect i guess.  No doubt it will work fine on WIN 10 but i'm going the WIN 7 route and i understand from some sources that it's a little bit different platform.  We'll see.

Larry

W0OGH

 

On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 8:25 AM, Scott Scheirman <scott.scheirman@...> wrote:

I don’t know anything about LOG4OM, but a quick google search suggests that it will work fine on Win 10.  The LOG4OM site suggests that it has ended XP support

 

Migrating to a new PC can interesting. 

 Good luck, Scott W7SLS

 


On Mar 30, 2018, at 8:17 AM, Lawrence Godek <LawrenceG94@...> wrote:

I have a couple of grandkids but they live in Texas and i live in Arizona.  They don't come here to play on the computer so it's just me.  I don't need a high end graphics card cause i don't play games on the machine either.  It's used for Email and ham radio only.  What i have works really well but the XP Pro doesn't have the power nor the memory to run all the digital stuff as the system locks up when i try to run the Decode History page on WSJT-DX.  Been wanting to go to Win 7 anyway.  I see some on Ebay that have 8 or 16 gig of memory along with 500GB of HD of which i will never use more than 60% of so that's perfectly adequate.  i'm not sure how i will get the LOg4OM database into  WIN7 though from the XP Pro system.  I've been told that you can't reuse some of the stuff from XP into win 7.  That's my big concern as it's quite large and has all my contacts in it.

Thanks for the note. APpreciate any input as to this change.

Larry

W0OGH

 

On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 4:41 AM, Gilbert Baron <w0mn00@...> wrote:

And if you have Kids or Grandkids that want to play games on Steam then you better be darn sure to get a high end graphics card. That will cost more than some PCs though. If your card is less than 300 dollars it is probably not enough 😊

NOT needed for ham radio though.

 

W0MN EN34rb 44.08226 N 92.51265 W

Hierro candente, batir de repente

HP Laptop

 

From: Support@HamApps.groups.io <Support@HamApps.groups.io> On Behalf Of Scott Scheirman
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 18:37
To: Support@HamApps.groups.io
Subject: Re: [HamApps] New PC

 

It’s a bit like asking what to have for dinner. ;)

 

Lots of good choices out there, and almost anything will be much faster than a legacy XP machine.

 

One of many ways to start is to think about form factor.  

Laptop — doubles as a portable computer, but may have fewer USB slots, and some find the ergonomics a challenge (they take up desk space)

Desktop — wide range available, from entry level to uber gaming.  Some have fan noise, and consider where you’ll put it. Desktop ( valuable space), floor (longer cables).

Mini — example. Intel NUC.   Wide range including loaded with SSD.  Quiet.  Mount on the back PC a monitor if you wish

Micro — example Intel compute stick, like a thumb drive.  I’ve seen ppl run Winlink express on these in a go kit, but not sure they’d be up to multiple programs etc.  

 

Me? I retired my laptop and went for an i7 intel NUC.  Happy.  

 

Good luck whatever you choose 

Scott

W7SLS

 


On Mar 29, 2018, at 3:59 PM, Lawrence Godek <LawrenceG94@...> wrote:

Well it's evident that my computer running XP-Pro SP3 is never going to get better and allow me to run the full WSJT- WSJTX pair.  Besides that i can't even run LOG4OM anymore.  So if i'm going to have to upgrade to Windows 10 or something (?) what should i specify my needs are for max capabilities in the way of memory?  Something off the shelf or customization necessary?  How about Win 7 or 8?  See lots of those machines available with what seems like lots of memory capacity and fairly economical at that.  Really like to be able to take advantage of all of the features in WSJTX.

Larry

W0OGH


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locked Re: New PC

Brad Rich <brad.rich@...>
 

Someday in the near future you will have to upgrade to Windows 10 for security reasons.  I tried a Windows 7 to 10 upgrade and could not get the upgrade to work.  I ended up completing a fresh install of 10 and I love it.  I run a large suite of HAM applications with no problems.

 

From: Support@HamApps.groups.io [mailto:Support@HamApps.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lawrence Godek
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 3:56 PM
To: Support@HamApps.groups.io
Subject: Re: [HamApps] New PC

 

LOG4OM has a lot of nice attributes.  However there are a couple of things that make me scratch because they show no inclinatiion to fix them.  Oh well, nothing can be perfect i guess.  No doubt it will work fine on WIN 10 but i'm going the WIN 7 route and i understand from some sources that it's a little bit different platform.  We'll see.

Larry

W0OGH

 

On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 8:25 AM, Scott Scheirman <scott.scheirman@...> wrote:

I don’t know anything about LOG4OM, but a quick google search suggests that it will work fine on Win 10.  The LOG4OM site suggests that it has ended XP support

 

Migrating to a new PC can interesting. 

 Good luck, Scott W7SLS

 


On Mar 30, 2018, at 8:17 AM, Lawrence Godek <LawrenceG94@...> wrote:

I have a couple of grandkids but they live in Texas and i live in Arizona.  They don't come here to play on the computer so it's just me.  I don't need a high end graphics card cause i don't play games on the machine either.  It's used for Email and ham radio only.  What i have works really well but the XP Pro doesn't have the power nor the memory to run all the digital stuff as the system locks up when i try to run the Decode History page on WSJT-DX.  Been wanting to go to Win 7 anyway.  I see some on Ebay that have 8 or 16 gig of memory along with 500GB of HD of which i will never use more than 60% of so that's perfectly adequate.  i'm not sure how i will get the LOg4OM database into  WIN7 though from the XP Pro system.  I've been told that you can't reuse some of the stuff from XP into win 7.  That's my big concern as it's quite large and has all my contacts in it.

Thanks for the note. APpreciate any input as to this change.

Larry

W0OGH

 

On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 4:41 AM, Gilbert Baron <w0mn00@...> wrote:

And if you have Kids or Grandkids that want to play games on Steam then you better be darn sure to get a high end graphics card. That will cost more than some PCs though. If your card is less than 300 dollars it is probably not enough 😊

NOT needed for ham radio though.

 

W0MN EN34rb 44.08226 N 92.51265 W

Hierro candente, batir de repente

HP Laptop

 

From: Support@HamApps.groups.io <Support@HamApps.groups.io> On Behalf Of Scott Scheirman
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 18:37
To: Support@HamApps.groups.io
Subject: Re: [HamApps] New PC

 

It’s a bit like asking what to have for dinner. ;)

 

Lots of good choices out there, and almost anything will be much faster than a legacy XP machine.

 

One of many ways to start is to think about form factor.  

Laptop — doubles as a portable computer, but may have fewer USB slots, and some find the ergonomics a challenge (they take up desk space)

Desktop — wide range available, from entry level to uber gaming.  Some have fan noise, and consider where you’ll put it. Desktop ( valuable space), floor (longer cables).

Mini — example. Intel NUC.   Wide range including loaded with SSD.  Quiet.  Mount on the back PC a monitor if you wish

Micro — example Intel compute stick, like a thumb drive.  I’ve seen ppl run Winlink express on these in a go kit, but not sure they’d be up to multiple programs etc.  

 

Me? I retired my laptop and went for an i7 intel NUC.  Happy.  

 

Good luck whatever you choose 

Scott

W7SLS

 


On Mar 29, 2018, at 3:59 PM, Lawrence Godek <LawrenceG94@...> wrote:

Well it's evident that my computer running XP-Pro SP3 is never going to get better and allow me to run the full WSJT- WSJTX pair.  Besides that i can't even run LOG4OM anymore.  So if i'm going to have to upgrade to Windows 10 or something (?) what should i specify my needs are for max capabilities in the way of memory?  Something off the shelf or customization necessary?  How about Win 7 or 8?  See lots of those machines available with what seems like lots of memory capacity and fairly economical at that.  Really like to be able to take advantage of all of the features in WSJTX.

Larry

W0OGH


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locked Re: New PC

Lawrence Godek
 

LOG4OM has a lot of nice attributes.  However there are a couple of things that make me scratch because they show no inclinatiion to fix them.  Oh well, nothing can be perfect i guess.  No doubt it will work fine on WIN 10 but i'm going the WIN 7 route and i understand from some sources that it's a little bit different platform.  We'll see.

Larry
W0OGH

On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 8:25 AM, Scott Scheirman <scott.scheirman@...> wrote:
I don’t know anything about LOG4OM, but a quick google search suggests that it will work fine on Win 10.  The LOG4OM site suggests that it has ended XP support

Migrating to a new PC can interesting. 
 Good luck, Scott W7SLS



On Mar 30, 2018, at 8:17 AM, Lawrence Godek <LawrenceG94@...> wrote:

I have a couple of grandkids but they live in Texas and i live in Arizona.  They don't come here to play on the computer so it's just me.  I don't need a high end graphics card cause i don't play games on the machine either.  It's used for Email and ham radio only.  What i have works really well but the XP Pro doesn't have the power nor the memory to run all the digital stuff as the system locks up when i try to run the Decode History page on WSJT-DX.  Been wanting to go to Win 7 anyway.  I see some on Ebay that have 8 or 16 gig of memory along with 500GB of HD of which i will never use more than 60% of so that's perfectly adequate.  i'm not sure how i will get the LOg4OM database into  WIN7 though from the XP Pro system.  I've been told that you can't reuse some of the stuff from XP into win 7.  That's my big concern as it's quite large and has all my contacts in it.

Thanks for the note. APpreciate any input as to this change.

Larry
W0OGH

On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 4:41 AM, Gilbert Baron <w0mn00@...> wrote:

And if you have Kids or Grandkids that want to play games on Steam then you better be darn sure to get a high end graphics card. That will cost more than some PCs though. If your card is less than 300 dollars it is probably not enough 😊

NOT needed for ham radio though.

 

W0MN EN34rb 44.08226 N 92.51265 W

Hierro candente, batir de repente

HP Laptop

 

From: Support@HamApps.groups.io <Support@HamApps.groups.io> On Behalf Of Scott Scheirman
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 18:37
To: Support@HamApps.groups.io
Subject: Re: [HamApps] New PC

 

It’s a bit like asking what to have for dinner. ;)

 

Lots of good choices out there, and almost anything will be much faster than a legacy XP machine.

 

One of many ways to start is to think about form factor.  

Laptop — doubles as a portable computer, but may have fewer USB slots, and some find the ergonomics a challenge (they take up desk space)

Desktop — wide range available, from entry level to uber gaming.  Some have fan noise, and consider where you’ll put it. Desktop ( valuable space), floor (longer cables).

Mini — example. Intel NUC.   Wide range including loaded with SSD.  Quiet.  Mount on the back PC a monitor if you wish

Micro — example Intel compute stick, like a thumb drive.  I’ve seen ppl run Winlink express on these in a go kit, but not sure they’d be up to multiple programs etc.  

 

Me? I retired my laptop and went for an i7 intel NUC.  Happy.  

 

Good luck whatever you choose 

Scott

W7SLS

 


On Mar 29, 2018, at 3:59 PM, Lawrence Godek <LawrenceG94@...> wrote:

Well it's evident that my computer running XP-Pro SP3 is never going to get better and allow me to run the full WSJT- WSJTX pair.  Besides that i can't even run LOG4OM anymore.  So if i'm going to have to upgrade to Windows 10 or something (?) what should i specify my needs are for max capabilities in the way of memory?  Something off the shelf or customization necessary?  How about Win 7 or 8?  See lots of those machines available with what seems like lots of memory capacity and fairly economical at that.  Really like to be able to take advantage of all of the features in WSJTX.

Larry

W0OGH


--

W0MN EN34rb 44.08226 N 92.51265 W

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locked Re: JT ALert causing double mouse pointer

Michael Black
 

I should've said 10 seconds into every FT8 period.
So yes...the mouse flashes to the spinner momentarily at 10,25,40 and 55.
So sounds like it's the Text Message process doing it.

Mike


On Friday, March 30, 2018, 2:33:32 PM CDT, HamApps Support (VK3AMA) <vk3ama.ham.apps@...> wrote:


On 31/03/2018 12:20 AM, Michael Black via Groups.Io wrote:
Do we really need that mouse pointer change?

de Mike W9MDB
Mike,

The mouse pointer change @ 10 secs is not caused by any deliberate Mouse manipulation action by the JTAlert code. I suspect it is an OS action in response to a dll call.

The Text Message process spawning occurs at multiple times in the minute, at 10, 25, 40 and 55 secs. If the Text Message spawning is the cause you should be seeing the pointer change at those times as well. Do you see that?

Further, if the process spawning is the cause, then the pointer change should be happening as the result of other process spawning, HamSpots spotting, SpotCollector spotting, Sounds Playing, XML Lookups, Online Log uploads, etc (have a look at the number of JTAlert plugin files, they all get spawned using the same code.

de Laurie VK3AMA
   


locked Re: JT ALert causing double mouse pointer

JTAlert Support (VK3AMA)
 

On 31/03/2018 4:34 AM, Brad Rich wrote:

It might be an operating system thing reacting to an app call. I doubt seriously the app intended to manuopulate the mouse pointer at 10 seconds.

Brad,

I am suspecting this is the case. The temporary change to the busy pointer being generated by Windows in response to a call to one of its dlls.

All process spawning (needed since the JTAlert code doesn't support multi-threading) is handled by a helper application (JTAlertHelper.exe) receiving instructions from the main JTAlert process. This interprocess communications is done using a standard Windows mechanism called Mailslots. Mailslot functionality involves different calls to kernel32.dll. All bog standard Windows api functions.

I am only guessing these calls to kernel32.dll are the cause, but am not certain or convinced, as there are many Mailslot commands issued during a one minute period, not just @ 10 secs.

de Laurie VK3AMA
   


locked Re: JT ALert causing double mouse pointer

JTAlert Support (VK3AMA)
 

On 31/03/2018 4:28 AM, N S via Groups.Io wrote:
Where I really notice it is when I use the "big red pointer" mouse pointer set.  This is a set of mouse pointers that are large and red for those that have vision issues or just have issues trying to find a small mouse pointer on a very large screen.   When using any of these optional pointers, I see the flash at 10/15 and on some of them I get a double pointer.

I'm not sure why JTAlert would have any need to manipulate the mouse pointer.

Norm
Norm,

As previously stated, JTAlert does not manipulate the mouse pointer except when hovering the pointer over the buttons in the Decodes History Window. There is no pointer change made @10 secs.

This "big red pointer" set you refer to, is that part of Windows or provided by a 3rd party? I cannot find such a set on any of my PCs. Is this pointer set provided by another application, if so what is it and where can it be downloaded?

de Laurie VK3AMA



locked Re: JT ALert causing double mouse pointer

JTAlert Support (VK3AMA)
 

On 31/03/2018 12:20 AM, Michael Black via Groups.Io wrote:
Do we really need that mouse pointer change?

de Mike W9MDB
Mike,

The mouse pointer change @ 10 secs is not caused by any deliberate Mouse manipulation action by the JTAlert code. I suspect it is an OS action in response to a dll call.

The Text Message process spawning occurs at multiple times in the minute, at 10, 25, 40 and 55 secs. If the Text Message spawning is the cause you should be seeing the pointer change at those times as well. Do you see that?

Further, if the process spawning is the cause, then the pointer change should be happening as the result of other process spawning, HamSpots spotting, SpotCollector spotting, Sounds Playing, XML Lookups, Online Log uploads, etc (have a look at the number of JTAlert plugin files, they all get spawned using the same code.

de Laurie VK3AMA
   


locked Re: Problems installing 2.10.16

Mike Steiner
 

Yeah I tried the reboot before you replied and that seem to fix the problem…

 

Thanks..

 

From: Support@HamApps.groups.io <Support@HamApps.groups.io> On Behalf Of HamApps Support (VK3AMA)
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 12:05 PM
To: Support@HamApps.groups.io
Subject: Re: [HamApps] Problems installing 2.10.16

 

On 31/03/2018 5:49 AM, Mike Steiner wrote:

I get the following error:

 

 

Mike k7QDX

Do a PC Restart and try again to be sure that Win10 is not in an unstable state with updates pending.

Also check that you managed to get a full download, the HamApps_JTAlert_2.10.16_Setup.exe file should be 5154260 bytes exactly.

If the problem persists, you may have to temporarily disable your virus/malware protection.

de Laurie VK3AMA
   


locked Re: Problems installing 2.10.16

JTAlert Support (VK3AMA)
 

On 31/03/2018 5:49 AM, Mike Steiner wrote:

I get the following error:

 

 

Mike k7QDX

Do a PC Restart and try again to be sure that Win10 is not in an unstable state with updates pending.

Also check that you managed to get a full download, the HamApps_JTAlert_2.10.16_Setup.exe file should be 5154260 bytes exactly.

If the problem persists, you may have to temporarily disable your virus/malware protection.

de Laurie VK3AMA
   


locked Re: Problems installing 2.10.16

Brian (N2MLP)
 

Just installed   no problem

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

========================

 

 

From: Support@HamApps.groups.io [mailto:Support@HamApps.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Steiner
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 2:49 PM
To: Support@HamApps.groups.io
Subject: [HamApps] Problems installing 2.10.16

 

I get the following error:

 

 

Mike k7QDX

 

From: Support@HamApps.groups.io <Support@HamApps.groups.io> On Behalf Of HamApps Support (VK3AMA)
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 11:41 AM
To: Support@HamApps.groups.io
Subject: [HamApps] New JTAlert 2.10.16 Available : DXView Rotator support, GridChase Fix + more. #Announcement #NewRelease

 

New JTAlert 2.10.16 is available for download.

Visit https://HamApps.com for the download link and upgrade instructions.

Important: For the Grid Chase fix, a Scan Log needs to be run so that missing confirmed Grids are identified.

Release Notes for 2.10.16

  New Features:
    - Clear button on Text Messages Window removes old messages.
    - Hotkeys to turn a DXLab DXView configured rotator, SP or LP for your current
       QSO partner (DX Call) when the DX Grid is set. Available for WSTX-X & JTDX
       only. The hotkeys are set to match those used by DXView (Alt+R = SP,
       Alt+P = LP) and cannot be changed.

  Changes:
    - ClubLog uploads now use secure http (https).
    - Callsign tooltip LoTW upload date extended to include the month as well as
       the year (format mm-yyyy). Note this requires the Callsigns database.
    - Ignored Callsigns will no longer trigger an "Out of Shack" alert regardless
       of any other alert types triggered by that callsign.
    - Internal code changes to try and prevent the random non-display of the Text
       Message window. Note, these changes may not correct the behaviour (as this
       has not been reproduceable in testing).

  Fixes:
    - QSL Message and Comments %Power% substitution not populated.
    - Log4OM SQLite Log logging failure message worded incorrectly as MySQL.
    - Incorrect LoTW & eQSL Flag positions on Alert Types Summary window.
    - Text Message window, if already open, not showing Callsign when using the
       right-click context menu of a decoded Callsign.
    - Decodes History: Random display of incorrect number of bars in Alerts graph
       (triggered by multiple image signals).
    - Grid Chase alerts for Callsigns already LoTW confirmed in the current Month
       when there existed a QSO for the same Callsign/Grid combination LoTW
       confirmed in a previous Month.


de Laurie VK3AMA


locked Problems installing 2.10.16

Mike Steiner
 

I get the following error:

 

 

Mike k7QDX

 

From: Support@HamApps.groups.io <Support@HamApps.groups.io> On Behalf Of HamApps Support (VK3AMA)
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 11:41 AM
To: Support@HamApps.groups.io
Subject: [HamApps] New JTAlert 2.10.16 Available : DXView Rotator support, GridChase Fix + more. #Announcement #NewRelease

 

New JTAlert 2.10.16 is available for download.

Visit https://HamApps.com for the download link and upgrade instructions.

Important: For the Grid Chase fix, a Scan Log needs to be run so that missing confirmed Grids are identified.

Release Notes for 2.10.16

  New Features:
    - Clear button on Text Messages Window removes old messages.
    - Hotkeys to turn a DXLab DXView configured rotator, SP or LP for your current
       QSO partner (DX Call) when the DX Grid is set. Available for WSTX-X & JTDX
       only. The hotkeys are set to match those used by DXView (Alt+R = SP,
       Alt+P = LP) and cannot be changed.

  Changes:
    - ClubLog uploads now use secure http (https).
    - Callsign tooltip LoTW upload date extended to include the month as well as
       the year (format mm-yyyy). Note this requires the Callsigns database.
    - Ignored Callsigns will no longer trigger an "Out of Shack" alert regardless
       of any other alert types triggered by that callsign.
    - Internal code changes to try and prevent the random non-display of the Text
       Message window. Note, these changes may not correct the behaviour (as this
       has not been reproduceable in testing).

  Fixes:
    - QSL Message and Comments %Power% substitution not populated.
    - Log4OM SQLite Log logging failure message worded incorrectly as MySQL.
    - Incorrect LoTW & eQSL Flag positions on Alert Types Summary window.
    - Text Message window, if already open, not showing Callsign when using the
       right-click context menu of a decoded Callsign.
    - Decodes History: Random display of incorrect number of bars in Alerts graph
       (triggered by multiple image signals).
    - Grid Chase alerts for Callsigns already LoTW confirmed in the current Month
       when there existed a QSO for the same Callsign/Grid combination LoTW
       confirmed in a previous Month.


de Laurie VK3AMA


locked New JTAlert 2.10.16 Available : DXView Rotator support, GridChase Fix + more. #Announcement #NewRelease

JTAlert Support (VK3AMA)
 

New JTAlert 2.10.16 is available for download.

Visit https://HamApps.com for the download link and upgrade instructions.

Important: For the Grid Chase fix, a Scan Log needs to be run so that missing confirmed Grids are identified.

Release Notes for 2.10.16
  New Features:
    - Clear button on Text Messages Window removes old messages.
    - Hotkeys to turn a DXLab DXView configured rotator, SP or LP for your current
       QSO partner (DX Call) when the DX Grid is set. Available for WSTX-X & JTDX
       only. The hotkeys are set to match those used by DXView (Alt+R = SP,
       Alt+P = LP) and cannot be changed.

  Changes:
    - ClubLog uploads now use secure http (https).
    - Callsign tooltip LoTW upload date extended to include the month as well as
       the year (format mm-yyyy). Note this requires the Callsigns database.
    - Ignored Callsigns will no longer trigger an "Out of Shack" alert regardless
       of any other alert types triggered by that callsign.
    - Internal code changes to try and prevent the random non-display of the Text
       Message window. Note, these changes may not correct the behaviour (as this
       has not been reproduceable in testing).

  Fixes:
    - QSL Message and Comments %Power% substitution not populated.
    - Log4OM SQLite Log logging failure message worded incorrectly as MySQL.
    - Incorrect LoTW & eQSL Flag positions on Alert Types Summary window.
    - Text Message window, if already open, not showing Callsign when using the
       right-click context menu of a decoded Callsign.
    - Decodes History: Random display of incorrect number of bars in Alerts graph
       (triggered by multiple image signals).
    - Grid Chase alerts for Callsigns already LoTW confirmed in the current Month
       when there existed a QSO for the same Callsign/Grid combination LoTW
       confirmed in a previous Month.

de Laurie VK3AMA


locked Re: JT ALert causing double mouse pointer

Brad Rich <brad.rich@...>
 

It might be an operating system thing reacting to an app call. I doubt seriously the app intended to manuopulate the mouse pointer at 10 seconds.

 

From: Support@HamApps.groups.io [mailto:Support@HamApps.groups.io] On Behalf Of N S via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 12:29 PM
To: Support@HamApps.groups.io
Subject: Re: [HamApps] JT ALert causing double mouse pointer

 

Where I really notice it is when I use the "big red pointer" mouse pointer set.  This is a set of mouse pointers that are large and red for those that have vision issues or just have issues trying to find a small mouse pointer on a very large screen.   When using any of these optional pointers, I see the flash at 10/15 and on some of them I get a double pointer.

I'm not sure why JTAlert would have any need to manipulate the mouse pointer.

Norm


locked Re: JT ALert causing double mouse pointer

N S
 

Where I really notice it is when I use the "big red pointer" mouse pointer set.  This is a set of mouse pointers that are large and red for those that have vision issues or just have issues trying to find a small mouse pointer on a very large screen.   When using any of these optional pointers, I see the flash at 10/15 and on some of them I get a double pointer.

I'm not sure why JTAlert would have any need to manipulate the mouse pointer.

Norm


locked Re: New PC

Jim Brown
 

Hi Larry,

It's nearly impossible to find a NEW computer, or even a refurb, with anything but Win 10. If you're REALLY lucky, you may find one with Win 7. These are the operating systems -- what matters more is processor speed and RAM. Also, remember that while older machines have a lot lower speed, the older operating systems don't automatically add a lot of "Stuff" for the processor to deal with and to fill RAM. 

I've given older laptops retired from my business (or bought used) a new lease on life by simply adding RAM. If you have an XP machine, by all means add memory to bring it to 4GB. The most RAM that XP can organize is about 3GB, but 3GB is 1 GB better than 2GB. IMO, the only downside of XP is that RAM limitation.

If you're buying a new machine, go for an i7 processor and 16GB of RAM.  I've put solid state drives in a few laptops and been thrilled with how fast they seem, and deal with memory paging.



On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 3:59 PM, Lawrence Godek <LawrenceG94@...> wrote:

Well it's evident that my computer running XP-Pro SP3 is never going to get better and allow me to run the full WSJT- WSJTX pair.  Besides that i can't even run LOG4OM anymore.  So if i'm going to have to upgrade to Windows 10 or something (?) what should i specify my needs are for max capabilities in the way of memory?  Something off the shelf or customization necessary?  How about Win 7 or 8?  See lots of those machines available with what seems like lots of memory capacity and fairly economical at that.  Really like to be able to take advantage of all of the features in WSJTX.

Larry

W0OGH



locked Re: New PC

Jim Cooper
 

On 30 Mar 2018 at 8:17, Lawrence Godek wrote:

I see some on Ebay that have 8 or 16 gig of memory along with
500GB of HD
MY experience is that you should get the most RAM
as you can possibly install on the PC ... 32GB or even 64GB ...

what slows down the pc most is not CPU crunch but
memory crunch, since everything that is runnint on the
pc has to be held in RAM ... if the ram gets full, the pc
then takes gobs of ram and writes it to the hard drive,
opens that gob of memory for a new use, runs the use,
then copies the gob back from the hard drive to the ram ...

you can imagine that that does not happen very fast !!

Also, the memory used for video display .. on lower end pcs ..
is taken from the RAM ... and a lot of what we do now with
digital ham stuff has a lot of video displays -- so video memory
is very important in affecting the pc performance.

My suggestion is to try to get a 'quad core cpu' if you can --
a bit more expensive, but when the cpu DOES get loaded down
having the 2 extra 'cores' lets it do twice as much work at the
same time ... and this is especially important for stuff like FT8
where all the decoding of the whole band has to be done within
a couple of seconds -- and lookups done by JTalert add to that
stress during the few seconds before everything gets displayed.

fwiw, I almost always buy refurbished equipment ... most of the
time they are just 'open box' items, and they are guaranteed by
the refurbisher -- look for refurb places that are 'authorized'
by the name brand or by Microsoft ... they have a reputation to
uphold.


jim w2jc


locked Re: New PC

John
 

Larry,

Figured you were out in the "sticks" and it sounds like you have a pretty good
idea of what you want, you sound hesitant to pull the trigger as it were, which
you will do when you are ready.

I would suggest you give Dell a call, talk to one of their people, the computer
will be new and you won't get Win 7 though, Win 10 is way better, I'd say 90% of
the grips with it have been addressed.

With Dell, you get a good computer from a company that makes good computers and
they have good warranties, techs will talk you through any problems on the phone
or have a look at your computer from their office or have you return the
computer for repair.

Still think it would be wise to build some future into the new computer but I'm
not spending your money, am I?

Good luck, hope to work you on WSJT-X.

John
VE3KKQ

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Lawrence Godek <LawrenceG94@Gmail.com>
Date: March 30, 2018 at 10:34 AM


John

Well my needs are for a desktop that runs Win 7, only one monitor is
necessary for me. I don't know if 8 gb or memory is adequate or if i need
16GB. There appears to be plenty of USB ports on it but the graphics card
may be something generic and not of the quality i need or want. I suppose
the audio is now incorporated into the mother boards whereas previously we
had to buy a separate plugin. A 500 gb HD is plenty as i do no do games
etc, this is my HAM APPS computer and nothing more but doing look ups on
the net. No one else uses it. Must have WI-FI capability and i'll need to
add a board, possibly the one from this XP machine that gives me a couple
of serial ports from which i run auxiliary equipment and program radios
from them as well. The thing about buying the refurbished machines is that
you don't know how much expansion room there is and if what you want to be
added in can be. The ads don't say whether or not there is a CD R-W unit
or if one can be added, Most of the time i don't even get responses from
the refurb outfits. They want to see the machine to you as it is. If your
not a techie, then you may not know what your buying.
I'm way out in the boonies here so no real computer shops within probably
70+ miles and who knows what their reputation is. Guess you spends ur
money and takes your chances.

Larry
W0OGH

On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 8:02 PM, John <jonie41@bell.net> wrote:

Hi Larry,

Really your question is like asking a stranger what kind of car should you
buy,
but here goes...

I bought my "new" machine about three years ago, I put an AMD 9590
CPU,16gig
system RAM, dual output video card (GTX760) with 2gig RAM and a 256gig
solid
state hard drive into it because Win X likes loads of space, the OS I use
is Win
10, I find it is well behaved, runs all my software, 32 and 64 bit, no
problems,
ham radio, games, productivity and model trains.

I've no idea what you want to do with the new computer but, put your money
into,
in order, the CPU, the RAM, video card capable of driving two monitors (I
use
two 32" TV's) and then the hard drive. Go for a solid state hard drive,
they are
cheap, fast and reliable, I would recommend 256GB.

The idea is that you want the computer to be useful for as long as
possible 5 to
6 years. That is how I had my computer built, I chose the parts and the
company
(NCIX) put it together and installed the operating system, in my case Win
7. I
now have WIN 10, I like it, yes there are things I don't like. That being
the
amount of, to me, software useless that is integrated into other MS
software to
the point that you can't delete it.

Win 10 updates itself as updates become available, if setup that way.

If you have a small budget, then go for a refurbished unit with say an
Intel I7,
8gig RAM, 256HD and a video card, wired mouse and wired keyboard.

Let us know what you end up with.

Good Hunting.

John
VE3KKQ

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Lawrence Godek <LawrenceG94@Gmail.com>
Date: March 29, 2018 at 8:31 PM


I like the thought of Win 7. Lots of machines with big HD and apparently
memory. But the question i need answered is , how much and what kind of
memory do i need to have. WSJT=WSJTX-JTDX are apparently the most memory
intensive users so i don't want to buy a machine and then find that it
doesn't have enough memory (that i asked about) or can't be upgraded to
the
amount i need. Those are the big ???. I'm not PC smart enough to rely
on
some vendor who sees a turkey and big $$ sales potential!

Thanks for a great program and any help.
Larry
W0OGH

On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 4:14 PM, Laurie, VK3AMA <
hamapps.support@vkdxer.com>
wrote:



On 30/03/2018 9:59 AM, Lawrence Godek wrote:


Well it's evident that my computer running XP-Pro SP3 is never going
to
get better and allow me to run the full WSJT- WSJTX pair. Besides
that i
can't even run LOG4OM anymore. So if i'm going to have to upgrade to
Windows 10 or something (?) what should i specify my needs are for max
capabilities in the way of memory? Something off the shelf or
customization necessary? How about Win 7 or 8? See lots of those
machines
available with what seems like lots of memory capacity and fairly
economical at that. Really like to be able to take advantage of all
of the
features in WSJTX.

Larry

W0OGH

Larry,
Good move. The next version of JTAlert (V3) will also not support XP.

IMO, either Win7 or Win10, preferably Win10. Stay away from Win8,
JTAlert
includes a number of Win8 specific code hacks due to problems within
the OS
plus it is not as user-friendly as Win7 or Win10.

de Laurie VK3AMA







locked Re: New PC

Lawrence Godek
 

John

Well my needs are for a desktop that runs Win 7, only one monitor is necessary for me.  I don't know if 8 gb or memory is adequate or if i need 16GB.  There appears to be plenty of USB ports on it but the graphics card may be something generic and not of the quality i need or want.  I suppose the audio is now incorporated into the mother boards whereas previously we had to buy a separate plugin.  A 500 gb HD is plenty as i do no do games etc, this is my HAM APPS computer and nothing more but doing look ups on the net.  No one else uses it.  Must have WI-FI capability and i'll need to add a board, possibly the one from this XP machine that gives me a couple of serial ports from which i run auxiliary equipment and program radios from them as well.  The thing about buying the refurbished machines is that you don't know how much expansion room there is and if what you want to be added in can be.  The ads don't say whether or not there is a CD R-W unit or if one can be added,  Most of the time i don't even get responses from the refurb outfits.  They want to see the machine to you as it is.  If your not a techie, then you may not know what your buying.
I'm way out in the boonies here so no real computer shops within probably 70+ miles and who knows what their reputation is.  Guess you spends ur money and takes your chances.

Larry
W0OGH

On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 8:02 PM, John <jonie41@...> wrote:
Hi Larry,

Really your question is like asking a stranger what kind of car should you buy,
but here goes...

I bought my "new" machine about three years ago, I put an AMD 9590 CPU,16gig
system RAM, dual output video card (GTX760) with 2gig RAM and a 256gig solid
state hard drive into it because Win X likes loads of space, the OS I use is Win
10, I find it is well behaved, runs all my software, 32 and 64 bit, no problems,
ham radio, games, productivity and model trains.

I've no idea what you want to do with the new computer but, put your money into,
in order, the CPU, the RAM, video card capable of driving two monitors (I use
two 32" TV's) and then the hard drive. Go for a solid state hard drive, they are
cheap, fast and reliable, I would recommend 256GB.

The idea is that you want the computer to be useful for as long as possible 5 to
6 years. That is how I had my computer built, I chose the parts and the company
(NCIX) put it together and installed the operating system, in my case Win 7. I
now have WIN 10, I like it, yes there are things I don't like. That being the
amount of, to me, software useless that is integrated into other MS software to
the point that you can't delete it.

Win 10 updates itself as updates become available, if setup that way.

If you have a small budget, then go for a refurbished unit with say an Intel I7,
8gig RAM, 256HD and a video card, wired mouse and wired keyboard.

Let us know what you end up with.

Good Hunting.

John
VE3KKQ

> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: Lawrence Godek <LawrenceG94@...>
> Date: March 29, 2018 at 8:31 PM
>
>
> I like the thought of Win 7.  Lots of machines with big HD and apparently
> memory.  But the question i need answered is , how much and what kind of
> memory do i need to have.  WSJT=WSJTX-JTDX are apparently the most memory
> intensive users so i don't want to buy a machine and then find that it
> doesn't have enough memory (that i asked about) or can't be upgraded to the
> amount i need.  Those are the big ???.  I'm not PC smart enough to rely on
> some vendor who sees a turkey and big $$ sales potential!
>
> Thanks for a great program and any help.
> Larry
> W0OGH
>
> On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 4:14 PM, Laurie, VK3AMA <hamapps.support@...>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On 30/03/2018 9:59 AM, Lawrence Godek wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Well it's evident that my computer running XP-Pro SP3 is never going to
> >> get better and allow me to run the full WSJT- WSJTX pair.  Besides that i
> >> can't even run LOG4OM anymore.  So if i'm going to have to upgrade to
> >> Windows 10 or something (?) what should i specify my needs are for max
> >> capabilities in the way of memory?  Something off the shelf or
> >> customization necessary? How about Win 7 or 8?  See lots of those machines
> >> available with what seems like lots of memory capacity and fairly
> >> economical at that.  Really like to be able to take advantage of all of the
> >> features in WSJTX.
> >>
> >> Larry
> >>
> >> W0OGH
> >>
> >> Larry,
> >
> > Good move. The next version of JTAlert (V3) will also not support XP.
> >
> > IMO, either Win7 or Win10, preferably Win10. Stay away from Win8, JTAlert
> > includes a number of Win8 specific code hacks due to problems within the OS
> > plus it is not as user-friendly as Win7 or Win10.
> >
> > de Laurie VK3AMA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >





locked Re: New PC

Scott Scheirman <scott.scheirman@...>
 

I don’t know anything about LOG4OM, but a quick google search suggests that it will work fine on Win 10.  The LOG4OM site suggests that it has ended XP support

Migrating to a new PC can interesting. 
 Good luck, Scott W7SLS


On Mar 30, 2018, at 8:17 AM, Lawrence Godek <LawrenceG94@...> wrote:

I have a couple of grandkids but they live in Texas and i live in Arizona.  They don't come here to play on the computer so it's just me.  I don't need a high end graphics card cause i don't play games on the machine either.  It's used for Email and ham radio only.  What i have works really well but the XP Pro doesn't have the power nor the memory to run all the digital stuff as the system locks up when i try to run the Decode History page on WSJT-DX.  Been wanting to go to Win 7 anyway.  I see some on Ebay that have 8 or 16 gig of memory along with 500GB of HD of which i will never use more than 60% of so that's perfectly adequate.  i'm not sure how i will get the LOg4OM database into  WIN7 though from the XP Pro system.  I've been told that you can't reuse some of the stuff from XP into win 7.  That's my big concern as it's quite large and has all my contacts in it.

Thanks for the note. APpreciate any input as to this change.

Larry
W0OGH

On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 4:41 AM, Gilbert Baron <w0mn00@...> wrote:

And if you have Kids or Grandkids that want to play games on Steam then you better be darn sure to get a high end graphics card. That will cost more than some PCs though. If your card is less than 300 dollars it is probably not enough 😊

NOT needed for ham radio though.

 

W0MN EN34rb 44.08226 N 92.51265 W

Hierro candente, batir de repente

HP Laptop

 

From: Support@HamApps.groups.io <Support@HamApps.groups.io> On Behalf Of Scott Scheirman
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 18:37
To: Support@HamApps.groups.io
Subject: Re: [HamApps] New PC

 

It’s a bit like asking what to have for dinner. ;)

 

Lots of good choices out there, and almost anything will be much faster than a legacy XP machine.

 

One of many ways to start is to think about form factor.  

Laptop — doubles as a portable computer, but may have fewer USB slots, and some find the ergonomics a challenge (they take up desk space)

Desktop — wide range available, from entry level to uber gaming.  Some have fan noise, and consider where you’ll put it. Desktop ( valuable space), floor (longer cables).

Mini — example. Intel NUC.   Wide range including loaded with SSD.  Quiet.  Mount on the back PC a monitor if you wish

Micro — example Intel compute stick, like a thumb drive.  I’ve seen ppl run Winlink express on these in a go kit, but not sure they’d be up to multiple programs etc.  

 

Me? I retired my laptop and went for an i7 intel NUC.  Happy.  

 

Good luck whatever you choose 

Scott

W7SLS

 


On Mar 29, 2018, at 3:59 PM, Lawrence Godek <LawrenceG94@...> wrote:

Well it's evident that my computer running XP-Pro SP3 is never going to get better and allow me to run the full WSJT- WSJTX pair.  Besides that i can't even run LOG4OM anymore.  So if i'm going to have to upgrade to Windows 10 or something (?) what should i specify my needs are for max capabilities in the way of memory?  Something off the shelf or customization necessary?  How about Win 7 or 8?  See lots of those machines available with what seems like lots of memory capacity and fairly economical at that.  Really like to be able to take advantage of all of the features in WSJTX.

Larry

W0OGH


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locked Re: New PC

Lawrence Godek
 

I have a couple of grandkids but they live in Texas and i live in Arizona.  They don't come here to play on the computer so it's just me.  I don't need a high end graphics card cause i don't play games on the machine either.  It's used for Email and ham radio only.  What i have works really well but the XP Pro doesn't have the power nor the memory to run all the digital stuff as the system locks up when i try to run the Decode History page on WSJT-DX.  Been wanting to go to Win 7 anyway.  I see some on Ebay that have 8 or 16 gig of memory along with 500GB of HD of which i will never use more than 60% of so that's perfectly adequate.  i'm not sure how i will get the LOg4OM database into  WIN7 though from the XP Pro system.  I've been told that you can't reuse some of the stuff from XP into win 7.  That's my big concern as it's quite large and has all my contacts in it.

Thanks for the note. APpreciate any input as to this change.

Larry
W0OGH

On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 4:41 AM, Gilbert Baron <w0mn00@...> wrote:

And if you have Kids or Grandkids that want to play games on Steam then you better be darn sure to get a high end graphics card. That will cost more than some PCs though. If your card is less than 300 dollars it is probably not enough 😊

NOT needed for ham radio though.

 

W0MN EN34rb 44.08226 N 92.51265 W

Hierro candente, batir de repente

HP Laptop

 

From: Support@HamApps.groups.io <Support@HamApps.groups.io> On Behalf Of Scott Scheirman
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 18:37
To: Support@HamApps.groups.io
Subject: Re: [HamApps] New PC

 

It’s a bit like asking what to have for dinner. ;)

 

Lots of good choices out there, and almost anything will be much faster than a legacy XP machine.

 

One of many ways to start is to think about form factor.  

Laptop — doubles as a portable computer, but may have fewer USB slots, and some find the ergonomics a challenge (they take up desk space)

Desktop — wide range available, from entry level to uber gaming.  Some have fan noise, and consider where you’ll put it. Desktop ( valuable space), floor (longer cables).

Mini — example. Intel NUC.   Wide range including loaded with SSD.  Quiet.  Mount on the back PC a monitor if you wish

Micro — example Intel compute stick, like a thumb drive.  I’ve seen ppl run Winlink express on these in a go kit, but not sure they’d be up to multiple programs etc.  

 

Me? I retired my laptop and went for an i7 intel NUC.  Happy.  

 

Good luck whatever you choose 

Scott

W7SLS

 


On Mar 29, 2018, at 3:59 PM, Lawrence Godek <LawrenceG94@...> wrote:

Well it's evident that my computer running XP-Pro SP3 is never going to get better and allow me to run the full WSJT- WSJTX pair.  Besides that i can't even run LOG4OM anymore.  So if i'm going to have to upgrade to Windows 10 or something (?) what should i specify my needs are for max capabilities in the way of memory?  Something off the shelf or customization necessary?  How about Win 7 or 8?  See lots of those machines available with what seems like lots of memory capacity and fairly economical at that.  Really like to be able to take advantage of all of the features in WSJTX.

Larry

W0OGH


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